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ahmad · 04-05-2007, 10:17 PM

today i raced my friends 1998 honda civic dx with my 2001 i4 camry le and lost.

since i have more horsepower and more torque i was wondering why i lost. we both started off at a complete stop coming off a stop light and he beet me in acceleration. what can i do to make my car faster?!?!

CJ Otey · 04-05-2007, 10:27 PM

you lost becuase your car is a lot heavier and not as sporty as a honda civic as for performance its not much u can do besides a turbo but that expensive u can get small gains from and sir and a exhuast system

bigbird · 04-05-2007, 10:28 PM

...welcome to TN...join the crowd.

first of all, was his manual? is urs? the dx civic is about 500lbs lighter then the camry so u got a problem right there. there isnt much for the camry as far as performance, there is a ripp supercharger kit for sale in the for sale section

. this may help get u started.
http://www.toyotanation.com/faq/all_...prog=1&lang=en

the camry has poor potential unless ur willing to put in the time and money to do custom stuff. enjoy the knoledge that ur car is worth more then ur firends.

hassanbigboss · 04-05-2007, 10:29 PM

Hmm......the DX weights about 2400 lbs and has a 106hp engine....on the other hand....your car weights around 3200 lbs with 136 hp....doing the power to weight ratio...your cars are approximately equal...maybe its the transmission which is not putting down enough horsepower compared to the Civic

...correct me if I am wrong

bigbird · 04-05-2007, 10:40 PM

^that of course is assuming both engines are running at peak power, depending on milage and mantainance, u might be runnin lower hp and so could ur friend. id point to tranny though. one gear can make all the difference.

ahmad · 04-05-2007, 10:51 PM

both are cars are automatic

and they have about the same amount of miles on them, so im guessing its just the wieght... thanks or the tips tho.

***ASG14*** · 04-05-2007, 11:34 PM

Also, one driver may be worse then the other. Power Braking can make a differnce. Gearing ont he Auto. Power loss due to age/wear/lack of maintmence.

nodrogkam · 04-06-2007, 12:18 AM

i'm gunna say the camry's transmission is less efficient.

i think it's dyno time! lol.

my v6 against a 01 integra ls (non "vtak"); auto vs. manual were neck and neck.
I know that when someone dynoed their stock v6 solara they got about 160hp to the wheels from the 194hp engine. major loss...

bigbird · 04-06-2007, 12:48 AM

ive got a friend that has a 98 accord cpupe v6 and im a little faster then him. the accord weighs a little more but the power out of both is about the same. that aught to make the v6 guys feel a little secure

imbest123 · 04-06-2007, 12:53 AM

My camry has about 125k miles and ive beat old and new civics so i dont know why you would be losing against a 98 civic. my mods are in my sig and i didnt notice a difference with any of them except when my engine was bored but even before all that ive never lost to a civic! i think with the numbers each car puts down that they should be about dead even but like everyone said, a lot of factors come into play.

nodrogkam · 04-06-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbird

ive got a friend that has a 98 accord cpupe v6 and im a little faster then him. the accord weighs a little more but the power out of both is about the same. that aught to make the v6 guys feel a little secure

i do believe you have more torque. honda's are rev happy but toyotas got more gut.

bigbird · 04-06-2007, 01:14 AM

yeah but not much from the factory, +7 ft lbs for the gen3. though i dont like to race, everytime its been by a car legnth. 1up for the yota, i dont think well be seeing honda in NASCAR any time soon

***ASG14*** · 04-06-2007, 01:17 AM

Hey, I beat an '07 A4 2.0T......Was not really racing it, just got POed on the highway as he was tailgating me, so floored it on the hill as he tried to pass. I wish I knew what went threw his mind right there as he lost ground on me....

94CoupeV6 · 04-06-2007, 01:19 AM

^ TeeHee!!! I know in my car I have beaten many Honda Civic's with built motors. I have also beat every Integra I have ever raced. I like pickin' on N/A 4 cylinders!!!!!!!!

Corollacrazy42 · 04-06-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nodrogkam

i'm gunna say the camry's transmission is less efficient.

i think it's dyno time! lol.

my v6 against a 01 integra ls (non "vtak"); auto vs. manual were neck and neck.
I know that when someone dynoed their stock v6 solara they got about 160hp to the wheels from the 194hp engine. major loss...

The 194 number is based out of the engine anyways... 160 is the number for wheel horsepower. Which isnt really to bad of a difference, but that gives you some knowledge as to what other cars should be too. Given each car maker lists the highest hp rating (which is at the crank)