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Old 04-30-2007, 01:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation 95 camry won't start when engine is warm or hot weather..

today my car been funny...it never does that before..
i start up the car and drove for fews hours...
i stop at gas station or whatever for like 5 minutes(shut off engine)..
When i got back I start the car up this what i get:
start right up and quickly die...unless i push on gas which i don't want to(bad idea) ...
wait a fews minutes then start fine again ..
BUT once i stop again and shut off engine; this time it didn't start at all..
ALL I HEAR IS CLICK..CLICK...CLICK...this time have to wait a long time. ..
ONLY DOES THAT WHEN ENGINE IS WARM(HOT)...
What could it be??ECU?? heat senor?? Main relay??
I'm not a pro so i'm asking you guys for idea..
thanks you guys!!!!
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Same thing happened to me a few years ago when I was driving from Toronto to Denver (first trip stop to West coats). I did stop at gas station abot 200 km before Denver and was unable to start a car without pushin gas - same simptoms (albot 22 hr driving before that and altitude change !!! from 0 to about 5,000 feet). Later I've discovered that problem was with air filter. Since I started to use K&N what espetially helps at high altittude and never experienced same problem again. Also, when egeene really hot to not shot it down immediatelly, let it run for 10+ sec. When you turn it off the tem will go up rapidly because fan stopped. Beside airfilter just in case check that rad cap is OK and holding pressure fine (replace it if you have not done so within last 4 - 5 years).
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"start right up and quickly die...unless i push on gas which i don't want to(bad idea)" This is usually an indication of a dirty idle air control valve. Clean the throttle body with spray throttle body cleaner paying particular attention to spray the cleaner liberally in to the square or diamond shaped port at the base of the throttle body. That port leads to the idle air control valve.

"ALL I HEAR IS CLICK..CLICK...CLICK...this time have to wait a long time." This is usually an indication of a battery/starter problem. If the click, click, click is a rapid series of clicks, you have a weak battery or corroded battery post/terminal connections at the battery or the cable connections at the starter itself. If you determine it is a weak battery, do a check on the charging system before assuming the battery is the culprit. Your alternator could be weak and not recharging the battery as you drive. You may have been running off the battery to a point where it was OK to drive once the engine was started, but it did not have enough power to crank the engine when you tried to restart it. If you are getting just one click each time you turn the key, you have worn starter solenoid contacts inside the starter. You can varify this condition by tapping on the starter's solenoid with a wrench or hammer. Then if this is the case, do a search for "starter contacts" on this forum. It has been covered many times.

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sounds like it might be an injector problem too, when was the last time they were changed? i had to change mine on my last camry because it was doing just about the same thing.
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I had a similar problem with my old 89 camry wagon. The mechanics insited it was the battery, starter, and the wires. Spent a load on replacing all of them, but the problem still persisted. It turns out that the solenoid was the problem. When it gets too hot, the car won't turn over, it just clicks once or twice and that is it. In my case, I had to turn the key to the on position so that the engine fan would cool it off (about a couple of minutes or so), and then the car would start. Once I changed out the solenoid, all was good. Maybe you should have someone check out your solenoid. Hope this helps.
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"start right up and quickly die...unless i push on gas which i don't want to(bad idea)" This is usually an indication of a dirty idle air control valve. Clean the throttle body with spray throttle body cleaner paying particular attention to spray the cleaner liberally in to the square or diamond shaped port at the base of the throttle body. That port leads to the idle air control valve.

"ALL I HEAR IS CLICK..CLICK...CLICK...this time have to wait a long time." This is usually an indication of a battery/starter problem. If the click, click, click is a rapid series of clicks, you have a weak battery or corroded battery post/terminal connections at the battery or the cable connections at the starter itself. If you determine it is a weak battery, do a check on the charging system before assuming the battery is the culprit. Your alternator could be weak and not recharging the battery as you drive. You may have been running off the battery to a point where it was OK to drive once the engine was started, but it did not have enough power to crank the engine when you tried to restart it. If you are getting just one click each time you turn the key, you have worn starter solenoid contacts inside the starter. You can varify this condition by tapping on the starter's solenoid with a wrench or hammer. Then if this is the case, do a search for "starter contacts" on this forum. It has been covered many times.

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NO it can't be...cause the battery is BRAND NEW...just a fews days ago...
starter soleniod?? could be that....
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sounds like it might be an injector problem too, when was the last time they were changed? i had to change mine on my last camry because it was doing just about the same thing.
injector problem??
never had this car change....might do that as well...
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Same thing happened to me a few years ago when I was driving from Toronto to Denver (first trip stop to West coats). I did stop at gas station abot 200 km before Denver and was unable to start a car without pushin gas - same simptoms (albot 22 hr driving before that and altitude change !!! from 0 to about 5,000 feet). Later I've discovered that problem was with air filter. Since I started to use K&N what espetially helps at high altittude and never experienced same problem again. Also, when egeene really hot to not shot it down immediatelly, let it run for 10+ sec. When you turn it off the tem will go up rapidly because fan stopped. Beside airfilter just in case check that rad cap is OK and holding pressure fine (replace it if you have not done so within last 4 - 5 years).
airlfilter??hmmm...it seen to be ok....
yes, i'll check cap too...
and no i had never replace that thing in like 6-7 years now..
i'll do that too and see what happen...
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thats not my only car that does that...
I have an 91 accord that doees that too...so i replace main relay and its perfect now...
could it possible be that too???
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NO it can't be...cause the battery is BRAND NEW...just a fews days ago...
starter soleniod?? could be that....

You never mentioned whether the click is a series of rapid clicks or just 1 click.

Just because the battery is new doesn't mean that the battery cable terminals attached to the battery are clean and tight. Check them.

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You never mentioned whether the click is a series of rapid clicks or just 1 click.

Just because the battery is new doesn't mean that the battery cable terminals attached to the battery are clean and tight. Check them.

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yes its true...i have check all terminals at once when it does that the first time...
i have tighten very good on that...i even double check that too...

about the click thingy...yes it still click(i can hear it) and still start but once is click and start it will die right away for no reason...ONLY ON WARM ENGINE(driven for awhile) or HOT WEATHER...when that happen i try to start but nothing, all i hear is click...not just one but rapid as you said....
but if engine is cool down then start fine with any problem...
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all i hear is click...not just one but rapid as you said....

That is definitely a sign that not enough current is reaching the starter. If you are certain the battery is good, and that all the cables ends leading from the battery to the starter are clean and tight on both the battery side and the starter side, then that only leaves the cables themselves as the possible cause. Do you have a digital volt/ohmeter to do any testing? If you do, download the generation 3 Toyota factory service manual stickied at the top of the General Camry Discussion Forum and look up the testing procedure for the cables in the battery and starting system.

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all i hear is click...not just one but rapid as you said....

That is definitely a sign that not enough current is reaching the starter. If you are certain the battery is good, and that all the cables ends leading from the battery to the starter are clean and tight on both the battery side and the starter side, then that only leaves the cables themselves as the possible cause. Do you have a digital volt/ohmeter to do any testing? If you do, download the generation 3 Toyota factory service manual stickied at the top of the General Camry Discussion Forum and look up the testing procedure for the cables in the battery and starting system.

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Oh ok...since i don't have one...
maybe i should replace it??? good idea??? any other way to tell???
i mean it hasn't been replace since the car is new...
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What do the cables look like. Are there any breaks you can see? Can you see any corrosion that appears to be breaking through the cable insulation. Are there any spots that have ballooned out? It's really up to you if you want to replace them. If you do, call around to a few auto parts stores in your area for prices.

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What do the cables look like. Are there any breaks you can see? Can you see any corrosion that appears to be breaking through the cable insulation. Are there any spots that have ballooned out? It's really up to you if you want to replace them. If you do, call around to a few auto parts stores in your area for prices.

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i double check again and look fine to me...
still like new, no breaks, corrosion, or anything like that....
the car only has 75xxx miles, most thing under still look pretty new...
has it since 43xxx miles and nothing happen so far until this spring..
any other idea why not starting when engine is warm up or hot weather???
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