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Old 05-14-2007, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tranny Temp. Gauge install?

Is it necessary to drill a hole in the pan or is there a wire you can tap into?

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The trans does not have any temp sensors to tap into. Might be able to find a temp sender that can be spliced into the trans cooler return line.
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The only way to install the gauge sender in the pan would be to weld a bung into the side of the pan. If you just try to drill and do an RTV quick install, it'll leak. toyomoho has a good sugestion to find an in-line install kit. Question: Where would be the best place to install a temp gauge sender? Line out of tranny, return line, pan, torque converter, in order to get the best information on your trans temp? Why do you need a trans temp gauge in the first place?
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im just looking for gauges to fill my pod and was trying to see how easy this one would be

from the looks of it now, ill probably pass on it

but still good info to know i guess.
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the easiest gauges to install on the 5sfe IMO would be a/f, volts, oil pressure, and oil temp.
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^what about water temp?
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im just looking for gauges to fill my pod and was trying to see how easy this one would be

from the looks of it now, ill probably pass on it

but still good info to know i guess.

lol..that's kind of ironic considering that the tranny temp gauge is the most important gauge for an automatic car....even the oil temp gauge isn't as important since it will also heat up your coolant and make the stock coolant gauge rise and let you know there's something wrong


and the tranny cooler sender unit can easily be spliced into the stock inlet/outlet hoses that go from your transmission to your stock tranny cooler located at the bottom of your radiator

you will just have to go to a plumbing shop and find fittings to fit your hoses and your sender unit, then use clamps
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Cool

The return line from the cooler.
The only way to tap into the thin pans isn't to drill them, but hit them with a punch. That way the metal is folded intwards giving you surface area to tap to. The other way is to drill a hole & weld a bung on. Both would be hard to do on an A/T. The pans are very shallow.
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I would definitely NOT drill or make any hole in the tranny. It just increases the risk of something breaking or leaking. I have a trans temp gauge and I went to home depot, lowes, whatever your local hardware store is, and I bought some brass fittings. I made a "T" where the top of the "T" is in-line with the tranny hose and the bottom has the temp sensor. It works perfectly. I have an autometer gauge and it came with a sensor. If you folks want pics let me know. I'm at work but could post them later tonight.
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you got it, I should be able to post by 6 assuming I get home without traffic.
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i would do it on the tranny line. get a "T" for it. its the easiest, safest way.
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That's the "T" I was talking about. In the first pic you can see the sensor on the top. The fluid runs from side to side. You could use pipe tape to seal it but I used the liquid form because it hardens.

The second pic shows it installed in the engine compartment with pipe clamps. I put it on the lineout because that way I know what the highest temperature is and it HAS to be cooler going back into the tranny.

The third pic shows my trans cooler. The fluid flow is: Tranny Out, Trans Temp Sensor, Stock cooler, Hayden cooler, Tranny in. There is definitely a difference. I can cruise on the highway and not have the tranny temp be over 120 degrees. Once the outside air temp goes above 60 degrees it doesn't work as well.

The reason I have the Hayden cooler after the stock cooler is because the fluid would warm up if it went into the Hayden cooler first then through the stock cooler last.

Stock operating temp is 156 degrees to 174 degrees. (give or take) To give you an idea.

Last pic is my Trans Temp Gauge! (Car was off and sitting for a while, so no temp) Hope that gives you some help.
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^lots of help, thanks alot!

what other gauges do you have btw? was thinking between the cobalt and cf series. trying to find a pic of how the carbon fiber ones look like lit up. cobalt sure looks good.
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So what is the optimum transmission oil operating temperature? Is 120F too cool?

http://www.digi-panel.com/digidevicesweb/trannyoil.htm

I don't understand the reason for a trans cooler on a street car that does not pull loads. Wouldn't you think Toyota engineered it right without an extra cooler? Installation of a temp sensor on a stock system would tell you how hot it actually runs.
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