3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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Is shifting the car...by letting off the gas(perfectly/smoothly) after giving it some gas(not normal acceleration rate) then making it shift like that harmful or better than just letting the car shift it by itself....like say i floor it...takes off would shift at 4.5rpms but i let off the gas enough timing it to shift at 3k?
then i remember seeing that maximum mph for 1st gear in my car was like 32mph?!?! or something thats shifting at redline..i just dropped a cold air intake in(i kno..) and i Neutral dropped from like 3.5k and i hit 40mph and that wasnt even a redline shift? anyone know about gear speeds or shifting points
well isnt it similar to that kickdown cable mod? ur not holding the gears as long..which in turn..putting work on the tranny...making it shift quicker/sooner..... and N drops i will not do for a while
Shift points are controlled by the ECM based on input from various sensors. Not sure what the kickdown cable mod is.
Not trying to advise you against what you are doing, just saying the transmissions are not built for this and will eventually cause expensive problems. As various TN members have posted here. Might change the fluid more often and perhap add an oil cooler to keep the temps down.
But you guys kno what im talking about right? i do the stuff like smoothly as hell..like driving sometimes(if needing to go like 55mph) i drive/accelerate and its like im driving a manual...shifting sooner so i dont have to ride out to like 4k rpms
since its an automatic, let it shift on its own. though ive never heard of shifting the car manually makes the car shift at LOWER RPM than leaving it in drive. shifting it manually usually keeps the car in that gear longer and runs the RPMs higher. example - if i were to shift the car into second at 5 mph and still accelerating, the car would still stay in first until it needs to shift to second. though the car would stay in second and not shift into third until i move the gear selector.
in any even, if you want to drive a manual transmission, get a car with a manual.
the ecm decides when to shift as u know. it all depends on the sum of all the signals the computer is getting from the sensors. incline, throttle position, speed, current gear, engine temp, and rpm all play a factor in shift points with an auto like on the camry. i do the same thing, sometimes i accelerate hard but know when to let off to get the car to shift. but it has no benifits or advantages except claiming that u know how to control ur tranny better.
and dont neutral drop. its not cool and actually hurts performance in most cases since the tranny wont dump, like u can with a clutch. break and load the engine a little if u absolutly have to get that little extra edge.
yea of course hell no i do not mess with L or 2 rarely and thats just to pull my car like 5-10 feet..and i have only ONCE..did the L to 2 shift....thats garbage...now that F ur tranny(kid blew his tranny in eclipse doing that BECAUSE IT WORKS)
blackhawk has the right idea...letting of the gas minimally to make the car shift ..thats what im talking about....yea ECT works fine and i use it accordingly)
Neutral drop i just did for launches to actually see if i could press the legitamate 8.0s 0-60 time a 95 camry had, cause other wise just flooring it it hesistates before it torques in first gear(like it revs to 2rpms. then it takes its time getting up past 3-4k).
i kno what u mean about letting off the gas a lil to let the car have time to shift ... but its really not necessary ... theres no good reason to do it
it wont hurt too much, but it doesnt help either - your car is less efficient that way
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sorry for kinda stealing the thread but is brake boosting just as bad as n-dropping because i know when you brake boost im sure its putting a lot of pressure on the tranny but n-dropping put a big slam on the tranny so i just wanted to know
not saying that i do it all the time i just wanted to know ive never n-drop because it scared me the way it reacted on my friends car
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n-dropping is putting your automatic car into neutral and then revving the engine up and putting it into drive...dont ever do that unless you plan to replace your tranny soon
and i think brake boosting is putting your foot on the gas while your other foot is on the brake and then letting off the brake to get a good start off the line if you have a rwd car then brake boosting will make your tires spin and you'll be doing a burnout if you give enough gas
correct me if im wrong cause im no expert
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97 Camry: 17" Enkei rims, lowered with Ground Control and tokico,
Alpine head, mids, and highs, rockford 4-channel, 12" P3 rockford,
MTX monoblock, TRD RSB, Clear Corners, 6K Mod Express HID kit
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