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Old 06-15-2007, 04:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation Fucked up thermostat job

When tightening the screws onto the waterpump after changing the thermostat, I snapped a little metal piece where the right screw sits to hold the water inlet hose inplace.

Can I use an adhesive (if so, what one) to hold the screw in place or am I going to have to replace the whole water pump etc


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3rd Generation 94 Camry DX - 4 cylinder

It's the 5FSE 4 Cylinder.

It leaks where the thermostat is resting, I can feel the rubber gasket exposed on the right side. I tried using another nut at the base of the screw to compensate for the broken piece of metal but it didn't seal properly, so still leaking.

Looking at a diagram, it seems its part of the Water Pump Cover that snapped off. My question is: if I buy a new water pump, will it come with this cover or do I have to go to the dealer?

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Water pump normally comes without the housing. This is usually conveying in wording such as “sold w/o housing.” The dealer price may be pretty steep, might check junkyards, etc. If you still have the small piece, a shop that can weld aluminum may be able to reattach it. You might have to re-drill and tap the hole.
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You should be able to find the parts you need from a wreckers fairly easily. I live in Calgary and have seen the 5SFE engine at the local help yourself yards several times.

Have a look here
http://car-part.com/Directory/Recycl...line/CA/on.htm
Or you can get a new water pump with housing for about $100. Do a search here
http://importcarpartscanada.ca/index.wws
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3rd Generation water pump housing

That's good news, when i brought the car to my mechanic last night, he said the part that chipped off might be part of the engine block and i could potentially need a whole new engine...

Just to confirm: where the thermostat sits is part of the water pump housing and can be removed from the engine block separately?

I did check out car-part.com and there are wreckers in the area that have the 5fse engine so I could probably wrangle the housing from one of them.

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i could potentially need a whole new engine...
Oh man...that would suck.
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The T-stat bolts onto the waterpump housing, the housing attaches to the block. The housing has a gasket and seals, so look out for these.
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the problem is if you buy a water pump from a junkyard, it could very well be dead...

the 5s-fe water pumps die with age/high mileage ... at least in my experience
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My mechanic just called and said he welded something onto the water pump housing to seal the inlet house, thus no leak...the system was pressure tested and was fine.

Although now there is a 70 coolant to 30 water mix in the system...should I re-flush to get it down to 50-50, 60-40 or is it okay/?

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no lie, ive had 100% coolant in my system for a while [on accident, i might flush this weekend if i remember] ... hasnt caused any problems thus far, but my water pump is only 1 year old
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Buy a cheap gauge at an auto store that tests coolant amount. You can then determine the min temp the coolant can protect from freezing.
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My mechanic just called and said he welded something onto the water pump housing to seal the inlet house, thus no leak...the system was pressure tested and was fine.

Although now there is a 70 coolant to 30 water mix in the system...should I re-flush to get it down to 50-50, 60-40 or is it okay/?

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That's good news.

I would get the coolant mixture down to 50/50. For $10 in coolant and a little time, I wouldn't chance it. IMHO.

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Sounds good, I won't bother doing a massive flush since I did that before the whole fiasco went down. Just drain it once and put in a 50 50 mix.

Just one last quick question...how long after you start the car up and drive does the temperature gauge reach halfway? Since this ordeal, it now takes like 2 minutes of city driving to have the gauge at halfway...

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My mechanic just called and said he welded something onto the water pump housing to seal the inlet house, thus no leak...the system was pressure tested and was fine.

Although now there is a 70 coolant to 30 water mix in the system...should I re-flush to get it down to 50-50, 60-40 or is it okay/?

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sounds like a pretty good mechanic you have there - down here its a miracle if they fix your car right the first time, let alone go out of their way to weld something for you!

70/30 coolant ratio is a little higher than recommended but oughta be just fine. Whenever you have to top it up in the future you can just use plain water now.
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