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Old 08-04-2007, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Few Internals Questions

1) Who would be a good company for Forged Pistons, Rods, and Rings for the 5S-FE, and where could i find them? [official website and a retail dealer website if possible, please]

2) Where would be the best place to look for injectors from a 2JZ or something to that extent? [same deal, if theres a website that would be best ...]

3) How did those of you who have upgraded get a metal headgasket for the 5S? did you just ask your local dealership to order it, or did you purchase it from 3rd party?

thats all for now ... thanks

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Oh, and if anyone has part numbers that would be great !!
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Forged generally refers to pistons. I'd assume you want billet or something similar rods.

importperformanceparts.net (flat lander's import store) sells most all parts for the 5S-FE.

FYI, 3sge injectors and 7mge/7mgte injectors will fit the 5S-FE, although make sure you have fuel control to go with it or you'll run incredibly rich. If you want to cheap out and buy used injectors, send them off to witchhunter.com for them to service. They can restore a nearly destroyed injector to practically new condition.

Another thing about the headgasket (which I've mentioned in the sticky) is that the later model 5S-FE's use a metal head gasket that will fit on all gen 5S-FE's. Alternatively, you can get the comectic MLS head gasket which is the option I took.

If you're doing all of this, I'd suggest you upgrade the oilpump to a '97-'99 solara oil pump. It's a drop-in replacement and flows better than a 3sgte oil pump (a lot of 3sgte guys doing more hardcore builds swap over to it even).
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when you say later-model 5S ... are you referring to 97+? or would my 1995 be old enough?
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I did not go with the option, but that was the information I was given. I would imagine it would be one for a gen4 camry. You could easily just call a dealer and ask if the '97 camry's came with metal gaskets or not.
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Another option that I completely forgot about was that Engine Logics can get pistons for the 5S-FE as well. (enginelogics.com)

chris is certainly top notch to deal with.
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a few more questions...

1) how much should i expect to pay for a full Port & Polish?
2) how much would it cost to check my compression or get some way of knowing if my engine is worth building? ... and where would i go about looking for this?
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a few more questions...

1) how much should i expect to pay for a full Port & Polish?
2) how much would it cost to check my compression or get some way of knowing if my engine is worth building? ... and where would i go about looking for this?
Porting and polishing really depends a lot on where you take it, both in results and in price.
Porting is an art, to a degree. Anyone can shave metal, that's not very difficult. The issue becomes having identical port jobs between all cylinders and knowing where to cut and where not to.

I don't know why you're asking if it's worth building or not. Building a 5S-FE has been done before, if you need links, you can search through my posts.

I'll personally hopefully have some dyno's on my car by the end of this week, if all goes as planned.
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no, i know youve done it - i saw youre entire post ... about how much was your port/polish alone? [without the valve job and all those other parts u had]

but i dont know if MY engine is in good enough shape to build ... i wouldnt want to start working on an engine thats ready to die ... im not really building it like you are, i just need to have a few things:

1) Port & Polish
2) Forged Pistons, with better rods & rings
3) metal HG
4) 2JZ injectors or something better than the shitties i have now

and then the rest ... im trying to write-up a full price list for a project, so that way i will know if i can save up enough over the next year or so
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The porting and polishing depends on where you want to go. My advice is to have engine logics do the porting.

As for injectors, you'd be best getting 3sge pink-tops or 7mge green-tops. The 7mge injectors are pretty common. You'll need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to go with the injectors. I'd suggest the Aeromotive FPR (PN 13109). Regardless of brand/model you go with, you'll need a -6AN regulator with a return line.

Given the fact that you plan on building an engine, bare in mind that you are rebuilding in the process.

In the least, when you're done, you'll have a new headgasket, injectors, pistons, rods and likely either new valves or have everything checked to make sure it's on par with what you'll need.

If you buy a "performance kit" from IPP, you get new crank bearings. Providing there's no wear on the crank, you should be ok with just doing that. If there is, have it machined and find suitable new bearings.
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One question is why?
Almost everyone here knows that making power from the 5SFE is hard and requires lots and lots of money and time.
The 5SFTE that i've seen were only making 170-200whp other than Wraith's 5SGTE...
Not to discourge you or any thing all the power to you!

How much power did the RIPP Supercharger add I have never seen dyno graphs on that...
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did i say i was building the 5SFE for power? no ... these are just stepping stones i need for a project

i havent revealed any plans yet, so just wait until i make a thread [if i do]
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Aw shucks assuptions suck hahaha...wanna reveal any teasers
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One question is why?
Almost everyone here knows that making power from the 5SFE is hard and requires lots and lots of money and time.
The 5SFTE that i've seen were only making 170-200whp other than Wraith's 5SGTE...
Not to discourge you or any thing all the power to you!

How much power did the RIPP Supercharger add I have never seen dyno graphs on that...
Basing off of this board's info? Yeah, sure the 5S-FE sucks for NA builds. Fact is, nobody here has done one beyond an intake and maybe an exhaust.

A NA 5S-FE with a normal amount of money spent (for an NA build) can give quite good gains, infact one of the best things you can do to a 5S-FE is swap the cams.

A lot more mr2 guys have done NA builds of 5S-FE's with posted results (dyno's, etc).

One guy with a home-made intake manifold, cams and standalone put down around 150whp, that's a 50hp gain from what a 5S-FE posts stock. According to your assumptions, a turbo 5S-FE can't even put down what's known of an NA 5S-FE putting down.
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but you guys are missing the most important option ...

a BUILT, TURBO 5SFE .... o.0

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The costs to do that are gonna be up there though, man.

I would just get a v6 camry or one of those two cars you've been talking about.
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