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Old 08-20-2007, 01:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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sooo yeah... my dad has my camry now... and it started overheating last night... and i guess he took a look at it today, and the water pump is gone. he told me in order to get to it you have to take the tire off and take the suspension out or something. im sure its been a while since its last been done (car has 214k miles) has anyone had it done? how much did it cost you?

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might as well replace the timining belt while ur down there.
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i believe that was replaced at 192k when they did a motor rebuild....
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Did the rebuild include a new water pump? If not, why not?
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^ what he said....a rebuild is kind of useless if not everything that should be changed is changed


and there is no need ot remove the suspension, but you do have to remove the passnger-side wheel and fender guard

it will cost about 70usd for the water pump itself and then 250-300 for the labor


if you think you can do it, it's worth trying yourself...it's quite the learning experience....but expect your car to be down for at least 2 days if it's your first time
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you might want to change the tensioner too.

I changed
1) water pump
2) tensioner and idler
3) misl belt
4) timing belt
$400-500
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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sooo yeah... my dad has my camry now... and it started overheating last night... and i guess he took a look at it today, and the water pump is gone. he told me in order to get to it you have to take the tire off and take the suspension out or something. im sure its been a while since its last been done (car has 214k miles) has anyone had it done? how much did it cost you?

btw its a 3vz-fe
BTW, how do you know it's the water pump? Did you check pressure in hoses, some time after starting the engine you should feal an increased pressure in hoses going from your radiator. If you feal the hoses are like empty a few minutes after the motor was running, then it is your pump. If you feal an increased pressure, then the pump is working and your problem is more likely your termostat, that is MUCH LESS expensive.

Changing the water pump and timing belt is fun (I've finished this repair right today), BUT if you do it for the first time it really takes time, a lot of trips to autozone and sears to get parts and tools and some fealing of uncertainty at the end since it is so easy to screw up things when changing the timing belt.

I am not sure about Gen3, but the water pump for gen4 is $35, timing belt - $30, tensioner and idler pulleys - $80. That was quite a deal for me compared with ~$600 asked at a workshop. Well, I think I spent extra $70-100 for tools, coolant, etc.
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Did the rebuild include a new water pump? If not, why not?
Im assuming it didnt... (i highly doubt the water pump would shit the bed in 20k miles if it was brand new) I bought the car with 205k on it in febuary. the mechanic that i bought the car off of told me that he did an engine rebuild (im assuming he meant internals? )... obviously he didnt replace the water pump.. which yeah.. is kinda pointless if you are trying to make the car run like new again.

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^ what he said....a rebuild is kind of useless if not everything that should be changed is changed


and there is no need ot remove the suspension, but you do have to remove the passnger-side wheel and fender guard

it will cost about 70usd for the water pump itself and then 250-300 for the labor


if you think you can do it, it's worth trying yourself...it's quite the learning experience....but expect your car to be down for at least 2 days if it's your first time
about the suspension.... my dad said he looked through the haynes manual and thats what he told me it said.. we arent doing it ourselves. we dont have the room or tools to do it so its going into his friends garage to be fixed. I guess they are replacing the timing belt and water pump for $500 all together... so those prices sound about right

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you might want to change the tensioner too.

I changed
1) water pump
2) tensioner and idler
3) misl belt
4) timing belt
$400-500
I will let him know


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BTW, how do you know it's the water pump? Did you check pressure in hoses, some time after starting the engine you should feal an increased pressure in hoses going from your radiator. If you feal the hoses are like empty a few minutes after the motor was running, then it is your pump. If you feal an increased pressure, then the pump is working and your problem is more likely your termostat, that is MUCH LESS expensive.

Changing the water pump and timing belt is fun (I've finished this repair right today), BUT if you do it for the first time it really takes time, a lot of trips to autozone and sears to get parts and tools and some fealing of uncertainty at the end since it is so easy to screw up things when changing the timing belt.

I am not sure about Gen3, but the water pump for gen4 is $35, timing belt - $30, tensioner and idler pulleys - $80. That was quite a deal for me compared with ~$600 asked at a workshop. Well, I think I spent extra $70-100 for tools, coolant, etc.
He said he left it running for a while, and when it started overheating and antifreeze was gushing (is what he described it as) out of the water pump. his best friend is a mechanic (the one whos going to be fixing the car) so im sure he will take the final look at it before it gets brought into the shop.. like i said before, we dont have the proper equipment or place to do it sooo in the shop it goes.. trust me i would LOVE to learn how to work on cars. being 18 and willing to learn, but i dont know anyone that will teach me
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He said he left it running for a while, and when it started overheating and antifreeze was gushing (is what he described it as) out of the water pump. his best friend is a mechanic (the one whos going to be fixing the car) so im sure he will take the final look at it before it gets brought into the shop.. like i said before, we dont have the proper equipment or place to do it sooo in the shop it goes.. trust me i would LOVE to learn how to work on cars. being 18 and willing to learn, but i dont know anyone that will teach me
Sounds more like an engine problem, .. but maybe you right about the pump.
Regarding "teaching", I've just changed the timing belt/pump, my car was on the parking lot, I have never did it before, just read this forum and all info around. So, if I had no choice but bring the car to the shop, I'd better buy another 200+ kmiles camry that needs no work within a few next months at least for the same money the workshop asks. It will be no less than $550 or more if you bring it to the shop.
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