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Old 09-08-2007, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation Brake thumping

I recently did a brake job on my '95 camry LE 5S-FE, installed ceramic pads, new oem vented rotors, new rear drums, rear brake shoes, rear drum hardware, and changed the brake fluid. Now when I hit the brakes I get a slight thump..thump..thump..thump from the rear passenger drum. I know the all of the new hardware, shoes, drums were installed correctly and all of the brakes are beld. It only thumps from that one drum and only when I apply the brakes. Does anyone have any idea what that is. Also do you think it is safe for me to drive it right now. The car operates and brakes normally with the exception of that niose.
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Oh, and I did do the proper brake in procedure. Slow form 30mph to 15mph about 20 times with 30 sec. between each time.
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Most likely that drum is warped right out of the box. I had this happen years ago on an 86 Camry when i let Montgomery Wards do a rear brake job for me. One of the new drums they put on was warped. It was the middle of Winter and it was too cold to work on it outside myself. That was about 20 years ago and I have never let anybody else work on my car except me. They had to turn the brand new drum. You can make certain it's one of the rears by pulling up on the emergency brake and see if you feel the vibration in your hand. If so, you can try to get a dial indicator and set it up to read the runout of that drum and compare it to the runout specs in the manual. Most likely it will need to be turned.

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Thanks, so the drum is most likely warped. I bought the drums from pepboys 1 week ago and installed them myself and they have a year warrenty, so should I:
A. take the car to pepboys and have them inspect/replace the drums.
B. buy new drums, install, then return the old drums.
C. say F*** pepboys, suck up the money, and buy drums at Adavnce Auto Parts.
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A. Is out of the question. Pep Boys will only do the work if they installed the drums and other parts themselves. If you are lucky and go talk to them first they may inspect that drum for you if you bring it in and possibly exchange it, if they find it out of round (warped).

B. They probably won't take the used drums back unless you can show them they are definitely out of round and then their policy may only be to exchange them. You have to check with the store.

C. It's your money, but I wouldn't do this unless you first varify that the drum is actually warped. What if it is something else, like a brake spring that came loose and is wedged between the shoe and drum. Remember, a warped drum is the most logical problem (I said in my original post "most likely that drum is warped....) but it is not the only possible problem. I have even seen brake shoes come apart and cause something like this. You really have to be certain what the problem is. You really need to do some diagnostic work here first.

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Old 09-08-2007, 09:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have already pulled that drum and all springs and hardware are secured in their proper locations. The brake shoes look intact. I put the drum back on and rotated it, and it felt like it was catching ever so slightly once every 360 degrees. I don't have a dial indicator, so is there any other way that I can verify that the drum is warped. I tried using the e-brake while moving and din't notice a vibration in the handle, but did still hear the thump..thump..thump.
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OK so I just replaced that drum, and the thump is still there!!!
I hate to think it, but is it possible that I have a bad wheel bearing?
Someone please help.
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So I talked to my friend who is a Subaru mechanic, and he said to jack up the car and rotoate the wheel while holding the suspension spring. If the spring vibrates or "growls" the bearing is bad, well, the spring did not vibrate, so the bearing should be good. Can someone please help figure out what is causing the thumping noise when I brake.
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Have you eliminated tire issues?
Try switching tires ... side to side .... front to back.
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Tired rotating tires, no luck. I still get a thump..thump..thump only when I hit the brakes.
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.... suggest taking it to your local friendly muffler shop. Maybe they can spot something.
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are there any tattler marks from rubbing? sometimes that can give a thumping sound. Also, have a friend sit in the back seat and listen while you make the problem happen. Sounds can bounce around a car in strange ways, and it always helps to verify it beyond a doubt.

Is your adjustment access hole plug in a spot where it doesn't interfere with the hub? it should fit in the biggest hole on the hub flange. Other than that, try swapping drums side to side to see if the sound moves.
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I can't see any marks from rubbing because I just replaced everything, so it hasn't had time to produce noticable marks. The noise is Definately coming from the rear passenger drum, and the adjustment plug is lined up with one of the largest holes in the hub. I'm stumped as to what is causing this. My friend that is a Subaru mechanic told me he doesn't know what could cause this and that I should just ride it out and see if it goes away on it's own.
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It won't fix itself and go away. If they did, I would be out of a job. Take both wheels off and switch the drums from left to right, and vice versa. You know you have some sort of good one on the left side, but the right is still suspect. Swap the drums and if the noise goes to the left wheel then you know what the problem is. If the noise is there, you have eliminated the drums and can look elsewhere. If that does not solve your problem, report back, and I'll give more insight.
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Tried swapping drums, noise still comes from the passenger side. To me it seems that the drum has to be rotating off center to be causeing this noise, and the drum is good, so there has to be something wrong with the bearing/hub assembly, but my bearing is good, and my mech. friend said that if I had bent the hub, the bearing would be shot too.
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