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Old 10-04-2007, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation 1997 5sfe SRI/stock intake dilemma (EDIT: Problem resolved)

Hey guys, I'm new here, but have been using the search tool as if there were no tomorrow .

I seem to have a bit of an ordeal. I drive a '97 Camry with an auto and 5sfe and stock intake. This car is obviously Gen4, but it appears that the intake/intake setup is from that of the Gen3 Camry. My mom drives a 2000 auto 5sfe Camry, and her stock intake setup is quite different from mine.

So, maybe all Gen4 are not the same? Initially I ordered the Weapon-R Dragon intake for the '98-01 5sfe Camry thinking that all Gen4s are the same. I put a note in the comment box when I ordered it saying that maybe the description that Weapon-R has for their Dragon intakes is wrong, but that's when I looked at the intake between my mom's and my Camry. Has anybody else seen/heard of this? Through all of my searching (at least 6 hours just for the intake), I never saw this issue. I ended up switching the order to the intake that Weapon-R lists for the '92-97, and it should be here tomorrow.

If anyone wants me to take a pic of the engine bay/intake setup of my '97 for reference, I will gladly do so.

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didnt really have an issue with my intake due to the fact that its basicly an aluminum pipe with afew rubberish bushings the mass air flow sensor and a cone filter :/... guess things get complicated when you actually buy one that a company has made :P

GL with the question, if i had my uncle's car id take a pic of the intake for ya but mines a 3rd gen :/.
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gen 4 is 97 -98
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Alright, I got some pics of the intake.
First up is an overall view of the engine bay. You can already tell that this is different from Gen4 because the ridges on the intake hose are different.


Next is a driver-side view of the intake. The part in the red circle appears to be completely nonexistant in other Gen4s (although I'm not sure about '97s).


This is an overhead view of the intake. The piece in this red circle also does not exist on Gen4. I don't even have a clue as to its purpose, since nothing connects to it. Also different in this picture, the hose with the arrow has a sheath-type of thing in other Gen4s.


This is a close-up view of the intake hose:


The next pic shows what is sort of under the intake hose. At the very top is the bottom of the intake hose that I mentioned previously as being nonexistant on other Gen4s. At the very bottom of the pic is (I think) the IAT sensor, the plugs into the stock air filter box. Could somebody tell me what that box below the intake hose is?


The last pic shows something I found. In the red circle is a little tear at the end of a hose that connects to the throttle body. The crack starts at the end of the clamp. Should I be worried about this?
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DUde your completely wrong xet gen 4's run from '97s to '01s with a exception where the '00-'01s are different from the '97s-'99's so the '00-'01 camrys are identified as gen 4.5s

Gen 4s - 1997-2001
Gen 4 - 1997-1999
Gen 4.5 - 2000-2001

ANyways my intake setup was just like TMetalMan's and i have a 99all you need for the SRI for a gen 4 camry is a place to the MAF sensor, pictures 2 & 3 in TMetalMans post those have no involvement in the intake system, mine is hanging in the engine bay somewhere and i havent gotten any codes and my SRI works fine and is custom amde btw.
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Just for comparison, I found an intake install thread for a Gen3. The intake is a little different, but not as different from mine as mine is from my mom's 2000 Camry i4.

GEN 3 air intake install DIY *56k users beware!*
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DUde your completely wrong xet gen 4's run from '97s to '01s with a exception where the '00-'01s are different from the '97s-'99's so the '00-'01 camrys are identified as gen 4.5s

Gen 4s - 1997-2001
Gen 4 - 1997-1999
Gen 4.5 - 2000-2001

ANyways my intake setup was just like TMetalMan's and i have a 99all you need for the SRI for a gen 4 camry is a place to the MAF sensor, pictures 2 & 3 in TMetalMans post those have no involvement in the intake system, mine is hanging in the engine bay somewhere and i havent gotten any codes and my SRI works fine and is custom amde btw.
That is very interesting... I've been reading constantly for at least 5 days now, and don't recall seeing that mentioned anywhere... Perhaps that information should be added to s sticky somewhere?

I do recall reading that the 5sfe doesn't have a MAF, but something else, though.
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It's just an intake, it works
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It's just an intake, it works
Which one, the stock or the aftermarket? If you mean stock, then I don't think you understand the point of this thread, which is the replacement of the stock intake with a Weapon-R Dragon made for Weapon-R says is 1992-1997 i4 Camrys, versus the Dragon they make from 1998-2001 Camrys.
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-Well i know that the gen 4s have a MAF senor on the box of the stock intake. Am i right?
-Then on the hose there a useless "thump" there...so aftermarket intake wouldn't have that, if it does come with it there was no need.
-On the stock intake hose at the center bottom theres another useless "box" type of thing although if im correct one the hoses that connect to the intake, connect to that box so its worthless.
-All that missing a place of the MAF senor which should be on the aftermarket intake hose if it isn't then you may have to drill a hole for it.

On gen 3s all thats needed is the hose that connect to the block, a hole of the MAF senor, and one that goes to the throttle body i think correct if im wrong. So if the gen 4.5 camrys engine bay is setup as the gen 3 then the intake should wokr theorectically but the gen 4s ( including gen 4.5) engine bays are all the same. SO i gen 3 SRI shouldn't cut it for the extra hose the gen4s need
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Alright, I got some pics of the intake.
First up is an overall view of the engine bay. You can already tell that this is different from Gen4 because the ridges on the intake hose are different.


Next is a driver-side view of the intake. The part in the red circle appears to be completely nonexistant in other Gen4s (although I'm not sure about '97s).


This is an overhead view of the intake. The piece in this red circle also does not exist on Gen4. I don't even have a clue as to its purpose, since nothing connects to it. Also different in this picture, the hose with the arrow has a sheath-type of thing in other Gen4s.


This is a close-up view of the intake hose:


The next pic shows what is sort of under the intake hose. At the very top is the bottom of the intake hose that I mentioned previously as being nonexistant on other Gen4s. At the very bottom of the pic is (I think) the IAT sensor, the plugs into the stock air filter box. Could somebody tell me what that box below the intake hose is?


The last pic shows something I found. In the red circle is a little tear at the end of a hose that connects to the throttle body. The crack starts at the end of the clamp. Should I be worried about this?
Looks like my stock setup before i tore all that sh#t outta there BTW I have a 97 I4
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The gen4 dont have MAFs... its IAT i believe cant bother look it up but its defiantely not a "Mass Air Flow"...
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Looks like my stock setup before i tore all that sh#t outta there BTW I have a 97 I4
What do you have connected to your Injen SRI? In terms of hoses and/or sensors, I mean. Do you happen to have a pic of it hooked up, or would you be able to get one?

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DUde your completely wrong xet gen 4's run from '97s to '01s with a exception where the '00-'01s are different from the '97s-'99's so the '00-'01 camrys are identified as gen 4.5s

Gen 4s - 1997-2001
Gen 4 - 1997-1999
Gen 4.5 - 2000-2001

ANyways my intake setup was just like TMetalMan's and i have a 99all you need for the SRI for a gen 4 camry is a place to the MAF sensor, pictures 2 & 3 in TMetalMans post those have no involvement in the intake system, mine is hanging in the engine bay somewhere and i havent gotten any codes and my SRI works fine and is custom amde btw.
Im not wrong he received incorrect lists from the website he bought from and i was correcting that. So before you start jumping on me trying to tell me im wrong which I WAS NOT maybe you should read more carefully or ask for clarification instead of trying to tell me im wrong when im not, Im not fucking retarded thank you

gen 4 is very broadly 97 - 01 i made a minor typo but i was no completely wrong so get off your high horse and try not acting like a total dipshit because 00 and 01 camrys are different in some ways but more importantly what i was talking about was that 97 is included in gen 4 when the info he received was incorrect from the dealer.
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