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Old 10-23-2007, 05:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation 2001 XLE V6 Starting Issue's

I have a VERY weird issue with my car, Sometimes I get a starting problem I would turn the key and the engine wouldn't not start. It will just make the starting noise for like 4 seconds and then fire up to 800rpm and then die, and sometimes when it does start the car shakes as soon is it starts. This only happens when the car is shut off for a little while ex: going to fill up with gas after 2min ill start the car, it'll give me trouble.

The other weird part is it never gives me problems starting in the morning when it's left parked all night, in the morning it'll start right up without problems. The other thing is I have a starter and sometimes during the day when i push the button the car cranks but it never starts. Remember this only happens when the car is driven shut off and the restarted within 10min of the original shut off.

I brought the car into a Wal-Mart to get the battery checked, they hooked it up to machine while the car was off and the screen displayed good battery.

Here's the details : 2001 Camry V6, stock Panasonic battery, 183 000km Canadian climate.
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first thing did you replace the plugs latley,i suggest the toyota brand,a little pricy but they wont give you problems like the jobbers plus already gaped,second try cleaning the throttle and injecters but not something in the tank i mean a real injecter clean,any engine light on?if so what code?if not do hat i said,if you want replace the wires at the same time they are probaly the original ones,hope this helps,
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first thing did you replace the plugs latley,i suggest the toyota brand,a little pricy but they wont give you problems like the jobbers plus already gaped,second try cleaning the throttle and injecters but not something in the tank i mean a real injecter clean,any engine light on?if so what code?if not do hat i said,if you want replace the wires at the same time they are probaly the original ones,hope this helps,
There's no lights on... i tried some injector cleaner in the tank. Also here is another mystery, the car will refuse to start if the radio or fan is on. I usually start it in ACC mode followed by the 3 chimes, then turn the ignition and it'll start but with trouble sometimes. Everything is kind of pointing to the battery since it is the original, but its weird because the mechaninc hooked up to something and it displayed something like 550CCA followed by a "GooD Battery" indicator.,
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Well To Know For Shure Ide Have To See It,maby Its The Alt But,,,like I Said Im Not There If The Batt Tested Good And Its Original Its Worth A Try But ,,,,see The Ignition Have You Replaced The Plugs ,is Your T Belt Due They Can Get Loose And Make The Car Run Like Crap.air Filter Is It Clean?
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Well To Know For Shure Ide Have To See It,maby Its The Alt But,,,like I Said Im Not There If The Batt Tested Good And Its Original Its Worth A Try But ,,,,see The Ignition Have You Replaced The Plugs ,is Your T Belt Due They Can Get Loose And Make The Car Run Like Crap.air Filter Is It Clean?
all maintanace has been done. Belt + plugs were changed 50k's ago air filter has maybe 10k on it.
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if the car starts then it dies shortly after I suspect that the fuel tank has water in it, try to use dry gas in the tank first and let us know if the problem goes away, but please drive the car for extended periods so can get rid of the water, go through at least a quarter of a tank before you state your observation.

If it is still acts up the same then the problem will be pointed to the fuel pump, or fuel pump relay or possibly clogged up fule filter.
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ive seen that water in the tank will do this,there is a water remover thing you can pour in the tank but i dont think it works too well,pop the back seat take the fuel pump cover off AND SEE IF YOU CAN SEE ANY METAL PARTICALS OR RUST IN THE TANK,IF YES WELL YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO
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ive seen that water in the tank will do this,there is a water remover thing you can pour in the tank but i dont think it works too well,pop the back seat take the fuel pump cover off AND SEE IF YOU CAN SEE ANY METAL PARTICALS OR RUST IN THE TANK,IF YES WELL YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO
Dammit, well today i didn't have any problems starting it up, I bought the car used off a family member so I know the history of it in detail! It was pretty chilly here today, so heres the issue when the engine is cold it starts perfectly when it's hot out the car gives me troubles :S
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ok now you said the plugs were done some time ago and you did put the o.e in there,ok i asked a senior tech and i was told sometimes a misfire code wont come out but a coil could still be bad,you need to hook it up to a scaner to see how the cyl is firing,i belive on that model its 1 coil for 2 plugs (i could be wrong,it could be 1 each)but anyway,what i think may be happening is 1 may be cracked ,a hair line crack,that when cold works fine but as it heats up it expands,what you need to do is warm it up(if no scanner)make it do the problem,then shut it off and unplug 1 coil then start it up,see if its the same way,(it should run like crap)if it runs like crap then do the same thing to the next and so on,hows the rust,(corrosion)on the 10mm bolt holding them on?they are grounding the coils so make shure they are clean(dont put some antirust or stuff on it you want a good contact)just when looking at the coils keep that in mind,i hope this works for you
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ok now you said the plugs were done some time ago and you did put the o.e in there,ok i asked a senior tech and i was told sometimes a misfire code wont come out but a coil could still be bad,you need to hook it up to a scaner to see how the cyl is firing,i belive on that model its 1 coil for 2 plugs (i could be wrong,it could be 1 each)but anyway,what i think may be happening is 1 may be cracked ,a hair line crack,that when cold works fine but as it heats up it expands,what you need to do is warm it up(if no scanner)make it do the problem,then shut it off and unplug 1 coil then start it up,see if its the same way,(it should run like crap)if it runs like crap then do the same thing to the next and so on,hows the rust,(corrosion)on the 10mm bolt holding them on?they are grounding the coils so make shure they are clean(dont put some antirust or stuff on it you want a good contact)just when looking at the coils keep that in mind,i hope this works for you
alright thanks for the info, ill bring it into my mechanic and mention what you said, thanks a lot for all the response's.
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