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Old 11-26-2007, 09:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Legality of changing from CA to Federal emissions?

My '97 Camry has two cats. Hello, California emissions! This car was sold in and has never left New Jersey. How can it be CA emissions? Dealer trade?

Anyway it's been throwing codes indicating the front (first) cat is going bad. The second one is starting to decay and will likely die soon. Cost to replace both is heinous; I am wondering if it would be a) possible and b) legal to replace it with a federal setup. I'm not in California!

Otherwise, much of the rest of the exhaust is probably ready to go, what's the best price anyone's seen for a full exhaust including both cats? One shop (not a dealer) is telling me it's like $1,000+.

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What does New Jersey say? What is the Federal setup?
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Typically if a state wants to clean up its air quality it will amend its auto emissions standards to comply with CAlifornia’s. This means it requires new cars sold in that state (after a certain date) to meet CA’s emissions standards. CA standards are higher and auto companies routinely manufacture cars to meet this states standards. The CA standard has become a defacto standard, thus states will have either require meeting CA standards or what is called a 48 state standard (a more lenient federal standard).

Tampering with the emissions system is a federal offense.

Check with the state department of transportation to see if the state has adopted CA standards and if so when this want into effect.

As to the sensors, highly suggest going to a third party repair shop as their parts and labor costs are much cheaper!! Replacing one or more of the sensors is not that difficult and with a few tools you can DIY (TN members do this frequently).

Local auto parts stores sell the sensors or online sites such as www.rockauto.com. Be sure you obtain the correct sensor, one meeting California emissions standards. There is a difference between non-CA and CA sensors and although they may physically look the same, the non-CA will cause problems in the CA system. The computer will be looking for a CA sensor.

Are the muffler and exhaust pipes bad? Why do you need to replace both CAT’s, typically the first CAT does not fail. Is the second CAT bad? Shop around for after market CAT’s if you need one (both online and at parts stores) and mufflers. If the first CAT try a junk yard. Have the muffler shop install them (if needed) or if OK cut out the second CAT (if OK) and weld it up to new pipes and muffler (if needed).

Replacing the A/F sensor(s) is a much more occurrence then having a bad CAT.
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Thanks for the info. I need to get under the car but believe rust is starting to get the better of several parts underneath. I already had one section replaced (flex pipe?) but more may be needed. I would really like to just replace the whole thing, wondering about an aftermarket cat-back (not for performance, but quality/durability) vs. what the local muffler shop would put on. I know there are leaks, I can hear them. Would that throw the O2 sensors off?

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