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Old 12-06-2007, 08:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HELP w/ no start issue

OK I have a 1995 camry w/ 234K miles on it. It has been a GREAT car but know I have a problem. It will not start. It began by not starting on cold days but it would fire right up when the temp warmed up. It is a fire issue not a fuel issue. I have no spark to the plugs. Now it just won't start at all. I have replaced the complete distributor (three times). The ignightor (twice) the ECM under the dash, the plugs wires and cap and rotor. the engine will turn over there is just no spark at the plugs. With ALL these parts replaced it would still only run on warm days. Now it is to the point it won't run at all. The timing belt is good and the engine is in time. I am at my wits end can anyone help me?

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OK I have a 1995 camry w/ 234K miles on it. It has been a GREAT car but know I have a problem. It will not start. It began by not starting on cold days but it would fire right up when the temp warmed up. It is a fire issue not a fuel issue. I have no spark to the plugs. Now it just won't start at all. I have replaced the complete distributor (three times). The ignightor (twice) the ECM under the dash, the plugs wires and cap and rotor. With ALL these parts replaced it would still only run on warm days. Now it is to the point it won't run at all. The timing belt is good and the engine is in time. I am at my wits end can anyone help me?

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The engine turns over great... just no fire to the plugs.

P.S. It is a four banger.

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OK I have a 1995 camry w/ 234K miles on it. It has been a GREAT car but know I have a problem. It will not start. It began by not starting on cold days but it would fire right up when the temp warmed up. It is a fire issue not a fuel issue. I have no spark to the plugs. Now it just won't start at all. I have replaced the complete distributor (three times). The ignightor (twice) the ECM under the dash, the plugs wires and cap and rotor. the engine will turn over there is just no spark at the plugs. With ALL these parts replaced it would still only run on warm days. Now it is to the point it won't run at all. The timing belt is good and the engine is in time. I am at my wits end can anyone help me?

Paul
If this one has the coil inside of the distributor , remove the cap and rotor, stick a screwdriver or an old plug wire into the coil and spin it over to see if spark will arc if you hold it 1/2 inch away from a ground {metal} on the motor.. It it arc's then the problem is the rotor, cap or wires.
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dig good thought... OK no go still no spark there. I am telling you this is driving me nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Have you checked the engine ground snap connector .... or wherever else it is grounded?
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dig good thought... OK no go still no spark there. I am telling you this is driving me nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul
I don't suppose these have a shutdown low oil sensor on the oil pan. Maybe you just have a blown fusible link, or main fuse.
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I thought of a fuseable link... but the car would run when the weather would warm up. I am telling you this beats all I ever saw.

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When it is in the no start condition, locate a white wire with a red stripe ... going into the distributor, with the ignition key briefly turned on ..... see if you have 12V at this wire ... Get a voltmeter or test light with a sharp probe tip, one lead end on the wire, the other lead on a clean chassis or engine block ground .... This white/red wire comes from the ignition, and should have voltage when the key is on .... manual suggests that you should only leave the key on for 5-10 sec at a time ... for some reason.
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You stated that you replaced the distributor, cap & rotor, plugs, and wires, but you didn't say if you checked/replaced the ignition coil. If that coil ground arc trick that digmycelica mentioned didn't produce a spark , then it's the coil that need to be checked/replaced.
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it might be a bad ignition coil..... just maybe the primary coil collapses but doesn't send enough power to the distributor to actually make it start..... check ur coil
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Man, you guys are great... but the coil came with each of the three distributors i put in. the same problems continued after each one so I feel comfortable ruling them out. In all my years working on cars I have never been bit like this.

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Paul, I had the same symptoms with a 1990 3SFE four cyl. It wouldn’t start when it was cold (especially in the fall and winter) and after I let it sit in the sun it would start right up. I had two issues. The EFI relay and the ignition switch. I don't know if the 5SFE is similar enough or not. A simple test for the EFI was to turn the ignition switch to accessory with the engine off. All of the idiot lights should come on. If the CEL light does not come on this (at least in the 3SFE) is a good indication that the EFI relay is bad. I had the relay replaced. However, it was only after replacing the ignition switch that my problem was solved.

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Paul,

Ill be damned if my 92 4cyl le doesnt do this exact same things yours is doing and i mean to the T! i have replaced damn near all! distributor, fuel pump, plugs, wires, funny enough my ignition coil was bad in the new distrib i bought so replaced that and car ran for a week or so b4 dying again. This time it wouldnt start when cold only when warm and barely at that. So this time i replaced the $40 toyota ECT and didnt fix a damned thing! I also replaced fuel filter and even took TB off and cleaned it with carb cleaner and also removed the IAC motor and cleaned it to like brand new! Funny doing this somehow made it seem like i put in a new battery and car attempts to start10x's stronger than ever b4, yet didnt solve prob. So to this day it is sitting and will start after cranking as long as 10 mins with taking a break in between starts. I would turn for 10-15 seconds then stop for same time. Anyhow im totally stumped and fed up and want a fix! Today i go out to start it in the 40* weather and it started in a bout a minute. Week ago i went out to start in like 20* and nada! So wth is wrong here?!?!?! Could this be the FPR??? Im taking to dealer tonight since a friend of mine works at toyota for the last 8 yrs in service. They are going to check it out for free since when i paid $60 last time they told me ign coil and once replaced for $190 it lasted a week b4 doing again. So maybe by end of the week ill know something.

Ill keep you posted paul and by all means lmk asap as well!!!

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i have a starter question as wel...this morning when i went to start my 5sfe, 96..it cranked but it the starter gear didnt engage the flywheel..os for like 2 seconds im sitting ther and she's cranking her heart out, just not doing any thing effiicent...then i take the key out and try again, started right up..first (hopefully last) time this has ever happened...anyboy know what im talkin bout?
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