SPEAKER SHOPPING!! ^^ christmas for my car - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

illuzionx · 12-10-2007, 04:28 PM

ok, well heres the deal, gen 3 92 camry executive

i went to some speaker stores around my area, and they said that my stock speakers are 4 inches in the front doors, but the speakers are held in by a bracket, and if they remove the bracket they can install 6 inch speakers in the doors.

thing is, they also said that there is a risk of all my bass being lost from air leaks if they remove the bracket. They also said that if i got a 6 inch speaker in the front, they would have to be shallow mount speakers.

question, has anyone had any experience in removing that bracket and installing 6 inch speakers? is there a really easy way that i could remove the air leaks if there were any? and last but not least, Do i have to get shallow mount speakers? cos wouldnt that mean the magnets wouldnt be as big, and therefore the volume of the speakers will be limited?

also what are the pros and cons in getting say, a 2 way speaker as opposed to a 6" woofer and a tweeter?

Thank you for your help guys, its christmas for my car, and im hoping to make her a nice relaxing cruiser.

Black95Cam · 12-10-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by illuzionx

also what are the pros and cons in getting say, a 2 way speaker as opposed to a 6" woofer and a tweeter?

IMO and what from what i have seen, is that a 2 way is one small package so dont need to worry about drilling hole or find a place to locate for the tweeter. but what i like about having a 6 inch "woofer" and a tweeter is that you can practicality mount the tweeter anywhere you prefer.

with shallow mount, the magnet can still be the same size but i think that the excursion would be less. i have yet to experience with them. just my .02 cent

eddie926 · 12-10-2007, 08:09 PM

I don't know what the Australian version looks like behind the door panel. Might help if we had a pic with the door panel off.

On the US version, behind the door panel, there is a plastic housing that is attached to the metal door where the speaker goes. The plastic housing is sized to fit a 6.5" speaker, and the speaker goes into, and attaches to, that housing. However, even many 6.5" speakers require an adapter bracket to fit that opening or at least have to have their mounting holes re-drilled to fit the housing.

As I said, it would help to see a picture of what's behind your door panel. It could be that the 6.5" plastic housing is there, and just has an adapter bracket attached to allow mounting of a 4" speaker. If that's the case, you could just remove that bracket and you'd be starting at the same place as a US install. If that's not the case, you might need to fabricate something.

You can look at www.crutchfield.com to see what they say will fit the US door. If you can take the door panel off and post a pic of what's there, we can compare it to the US housing and maybe get some ideas.

Agree with Black95Cam. If you just have a single speaker opening in the door, a 2-way would be the simplest install. However, a component set with separate woofer and tweeter would give you more flexibility with where to mount the tweeter for best sound. The component system would require additional wiring and a crossover that has to be mounted somewhere too, as opposed to just hooking a 2-way up to the factory wiring and being done.

As far as air leaks, you're going to have some air leaks in the door no matter what you do. And, you're not going to get kidney thumping bass out of the door speakers no matter what. If you want really good bass, you'll need to do something in addition to the door speakers, like a subwoofer in the trunk or 6X9s in the rear deck, etc. Again, just depends on how much money you want to spend, how good of sound you want, and how much work you want to do (or pay for).

GiXX3R · 12-11-2007, 03:01 AM

I've got a set of Fusion 6.5 components and fitting them in the front is extremely difficult! It's a custom job, made some spacers myself along with some pieces of 12mm mdf which I sanded to the shape of the stock speaker grills. Will be replacing them with some quality 4"s now, cause i've recently installed 10"+6x9's and two amps. Just put some decent 6x9s in back and some nice 4"s up front, seriosly not worth the effort and cost for 6.5's.