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Old 01-24-2008, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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FAQ: Gen 3 Suspension Options

since nobody reads the Suspension FAQ, and its not up to date, i figured i would make a new thread! This pretty much covers all of your suspension setup options for the 3rd Generation Toyota Camry

Strut Options:
+ Factory Replacement
+ KYB GR-2 [good street daily driving setup]
+ Tokico HP [good street/track combo]
+ Koni Red [adjustable-style, said to be comparable to Tokicos or stiffer
+ Bilstein [its been said that these are the stiffest, however the only available struts on their website are their touring-class ... probably a factory replacement]

Spring Options:
+ Suspension Techniques
+ H&R OE Sports
+ Eibach Pro-Kit
+ H&R Sports
+ Intrax
+ B+G
+ Vogtland (made for V6 models)
+ K-Sport
+ Sprint (Some have had rear sag issues)
+ Dropzone (Some have had rear sag issues)
+ Tenzo-R

my notes:

- For struts, i would go with the Tokicos unless your car is still a family car ... they provide extra stiffness, and are great for complementing lowering springs -- the KYB GR2's are probably your best bet if you want to retain a stock feel but wish to lower your car

- For light springs, i would go with Eibachs or H&R Sports if you want a minimal drop but a better-handling ride

- For for medium springs, I would go with Intrax or Sprint if you want a moderate drop, but there is always the risk that after they settle, the wheel well gaps will become uneven (however, the car will be level in most cases, instead of raked)

- For intense springs, I would go with the Tenzo-R springs if you want THE MOST drop you can possibly get, however keep in mind that they are discontinued so you will have to buy them off someone else

- most (if not all) of these springs are Progressive Rate springs, which means that the harder you push them, the harder they will push back ... which isnt optimal for the track, but its great for a Daily Driver .... this also means that you cannot cut them to achieve more of a drop, because you will be cutting the outer rings, which provide less force and you wont end up any lower

- IN ADDITION, lower springs do not always provide the stiffest ride .... I tried contacting most of those companies to ask for their spring rates (or spring rate functions, since they are progressive), and nobody would give me an ounce of information ... so if you want the stiffest springs, then its going to be a hit-or-miss game .... but keep in mind that most of the ride "stiffness" is provided by the struts (so if you ask another user if their Eibachs were stiff, you may get a different answer depending on whether they have KYB GR-2s, Tokico HPs, or anything else)

here is a link to a screenshot i took when trying to figure out what springs to get ... it gives you the Part # and Telephone # for all of the Springs listed, as well as the expected drop from each:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b.../choices_2.jpg

Coilover Options:
+ K-Sport Kontrol Pros
+ D2 RS Coilovers
+ K-Sport GT Pros
+ JIC Coilovers (thanks to GrkBallaG for showing that the Gen 4 coils fit the Gen 3)
+ Hotbits Coilovers (may have been discontinued)
+ ...possibly others, but none on ToyotaNation that i know of

Any questions ... dont hesitate to PM me or reply to this thread!
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Gen 4 Suspension Options

hey venom, i hope you don't mind me stealing ur formatting~~

Strut Options:
+ Factory Replacement (sealed strut)
+ KYB GR-2 (sealed strut)
+ Tokico HP (Tokico Blue) (sealed strut)

Spring Options:
+ Eibach Pro-Kit (1.2/1.2)
+ H&R Sport Spring (1.4/1.3)
+ Intrax (1.6/1.5)
+ Sprint (1.6/1.6)
+ K-Sport GT Lowering (1.8/1.8)
+ Dropzone (1.8/1.8)
+ Tenzo-R (somewhere between 2-2.25)

Coilover Options:
+Ground Control (sleeves only)
+ K-Sport Kontrol Pros
+ D2 RS Coilovers
+TEIN SuperStreet (NO UPPER MOUNT)
+ K-Sport GT Pros
+ JIC
~~~If you do not know what a coilover is, it is basically an adjustable shock absorber with a spring on an adjustable perch. They also usually come with the top mount with an integrated camber adjuster) The adjustable shock lets you adjust compress/rebound and the adjustable spring perch lets you adjust ride height. Coilovers usually come with linear springs and will usually allow you to choose the spring rate. *this excludes the Ground Control Coilover sleeves which is only the spring and the perch that you put on your own shock absorber and use your own mount BUT none of the shock absorbers avaliable for the gen4 camry is valved to SUPPORT such a high spring rate that Ground Control offers. **this description of a coilover unit is only applied to a mcPherson type strut. (what the camry has)

notes:

- For struts, KYB GR-2s are a step above factory replacement. They're cheap and have better performance than stock. The Tokicos offer the most performance gains. They are stiffer and can support lowering springs better.

-(by Venom_5) most (if not all) of these springs are Progressive Rate springs, which means that the harder you push them, the harder they will push back ... which isnt optimal for the track, but its great for a Daily Driver .... this also means that you cannot cut them to achieve more of a drop, because you will be cutting the outer rings, which provide less force and you wont end up any lower

-(by Venom_5) IN ADDITION, lower springs do not always provide the stiffest ride .... I (Venom_5) tried contacting most of those companies to ask for their spring rates (or spring rate functions, since they are progressive), and nobody would give me an ounce of information ... so if you want the stiffest springs, then its going to be a hit-or-miss game .... but keep in mind that most of the ride "stiffness" is provided by the struts (so if you ask another user if their Eibachs were stiff, you may get a different answer depending on whether they have KYB GR-2s, Tokico HPs, or anything else)

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no problemo

u left a few things out, such as the Tein Springs (and i think Coilovers)
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i see you have CSS open... CSS FTMFW!!!

and good infos..
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+ Intrax (1.25/1.25)
Intrax is (1.6/1.5), at least that's what mine are.
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Also you can mix and match springs from other toyota cars like the 99-03 solara, 97-01 camry, 95 avalon, 92-96 camry with each other from what what I've seen. Just that it's up to you to see how it looks on your car. The only one that is proven with a good drop is a 99 Solara Tein S-Tech springs on a 92-96 V6 camry but not on a I4 (yet).
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Venom, have you heard anything about Suspension Techniques Springs? I've searched found nothing so far!
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^ nope, but i wouldnt get them because i like a more aggressive stance
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