5SGTE Project Update

[Spartan0536]

Ok for the last 5 months I have been reading up on MR2OC & 6Gcelics sites about doing the 5SGTE, I have pieced together components for the build but I am lacking VITAL information, and I need help deciding what setup I should use. Keep in mind I still need this to be (Semi-Street Leagal) I live in Florida and we have a No-emissions law here so im not worried about passing emissions, just Noise Abatements and Local Law. Should I do Small Ceramic Ball Bearing Twin Turbos at Low boost 10-12 Psi each or a Medium Ceramic Ball Bearing turbo boosting about 18-25 Psi, I am worried about boost creep and LAG. This is NOT an attempt at making a monster drag car but yet a powerful street car that hauls ass when I need it to and to be UNIQUE. I am expecting to spend 30k over the next 2 years on this build at about 15k per year. I have allotted myself 6 moths of research and that i narrowing down fast with still too many questions left unanswered. like oil Coolers, twin Intercoolers, Co2 vs No2, transmittions, standalone EMU's, turbochargers, boost controllers,cams, pistons, ignitions, bearings, underdrive pulleys, balancers, fuel delivery, and body modifications. I have as stated before a list of potential parts that I will be adding to but I figure that EYE8Pussies would have some good insight to this project. Keep in mind that I don't mind spending the money to custom fabricate, I have spoken with my insurance company about insuring this car after mods and it works out nicely (not perfect but nicely), so any questions or ideas, also does it seem to be out of place to expect 500Hp by the end of the build?

[RichieRichJP]

Originally Posted by Spartan0536

I have pieced together components for the build but I am lacking VITAL information, and I need help deciding what setup I should use.

Originally Posted by Spartan0536

like oil Coolers, twin Intercoolers, Co2 vs No2, transmittions, standalone EMU's, turbochargers, boost controllers,cams, pistons, ignitions, bearings, underdrive pulleys, balancers, fuel delivery, and body modifications.

So you've been reading up on it and you have questions on almost every upgradeable part necessary for a semi-race camry? Sounds to me like you haven't read on anything.

And yes, you can expect 500hp with that hybrid swap. I've heard high 300's with minor upgrades.
But why would you want to do that? You said you had a 300+hp Camry a while back... ?

[Spartan0536]

My apologies for the long wait before the response, i had a rather busy weekend. The reason that I am asking for advice AFTER my research is that MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE HAS SOME IDEAS OR KNOWS OF BETTER PARTS/SWAPS THAT WORK. Well researched information from one person is great but research and EXPERIENCE from others (minly more experienced that my/yourself) has a greater output yeilding in the end. When I do this build I WANT IT TO BE DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. If there is any info that you can give to help me with this build then I am all ears. I would really like ot know what year 5sfe & 3sgte engines that I should have built so that the swap is "smooth" and painless as possible, and on what performance parts YOU reccommend.

[Creeps228]

umm i have one question why are you looking to spend 30K in total for this project? are you going to be doing it yourself or paying for labor at a shop. I've heard that the 93 5sfe and 3sgte fit perfectly without problems, thats whats ive heard

[Spartan0536]

Most of the work (which I have written price quotes for) will be done in PROFESSIONAL shops around the entire USA. I want my Camry to be really "One Of A Kind", I am doing this project to be unique, take a custom modded civic to a car show and its another modded civic, take a custom modded camry that boasts 500+ HP and you have a potential show stopper, who the hell thinks about throwing in 30k into a camry, NOBODY! Thats why im doing this, I do have a daily driver on the side that my father is buying me for my college graduation that is a hybrid that gets 80 miles to the gallon, and will have NO MODS on it.

[Venom_5]

the idea is fine, especially if you are passionate about it ... but it shouldnt cost you $30k

i would PM Yukio [CamryPunk] and Alex [swegyptian] as they both have Show Camrys that were completed (IMO, at least)

[RichieRichJP]

Originally Posted by Spartan0536

I would really like ot know what year 5sfe & 3sgte engines that I should have built so that the swap is "smooth" and painless as possible, and on what performance parts YOU reccommend.

From what I'm read none. I heard that you have to get custom internals made and there are a lot of other issues.
IceQ something a rather on the 6GC forums completed the swap, why don't you PM him?
And personally, you should just do a complete 3sgte swap rather than a mix of both.

[Venom_5]

i would just do the 3SGTE as well...

[Creeps228]

i have a competition, i was planning on doing the 5sgte. They only reason i want a 5sgte is because its a stroker engine and reliable...and yes i've pm ice23q and emailed a guy who did the complete hybrid, both say its reliable and beefier, well the 5s block is stronger than the 3s

[jlspec]

For the amount of money your expecting to spend, might as well go with a built 3S-GTE. It will net much better results and reliability as the 3S-GTE block is already design for turbo, like oil spray etc.

[Eye8Pussies]

me? I'd pick up an is300 and boost the 1jz- cheaper + rwd

there are smarter ways to spend 30K than on a camry

[Creeps228]

but keep in mind, he doesnt want to be like everyone, it'll help him stand out kinda like me and my body kit im getting on the camry. I understand his point of view but i dont know why he is spending so much, i see a lot of trips to shops and dyno runs in your future OP. But the 5sgte could easily pull the numbers the a 3sgte can, keep in mind you have a .2 difference between the two blocks making a 5sgte a stroker engine with what i believe to be thicker cylinder walls therefore you can have longer duration camshafts and not ( depending on boost ) worry about cracking cylinder walls, just my .02

[Spartan0536]

I do understand that 30K is definately ALOT of money and they are much better ways to spend 30k but as stated by creeps I want to be unique, both the engine blocks are being custom built and I will have a shop in california do the tuning & balancing, the headlights & taillights & other body work will ALL be custom, I am preping my wallet for the worst, whiach is why I am estimating at 30k, if it takes 30k to make it reliable enough to last 150k miles+ them I am willing to do it, I have considered the 3sgte but there are so many people out there with modded 3sgte's that its just kinda like "ok nice swap, but its another built up 3sgte." I was looking at PAuter rods and beams with ross racing pistons, but im not entirely shure, i also want to sleeve the engine but again not shure to what degree. How are Halteks EMU's comaped to AEM & APEXi, Should I do an HKS GT Turbo setup or a Turbonetics T3-T4 Hybrid?

[jlspec]

In that case, the 5S-FE turbo is pretty common in here in the states, why not a 3S-GE Beams turbo? Now that will diffently set you apart from the rest of the crowd either it be MR2, Celicas, Corollas, or Camrys.

[RichieRichJP]

This is where the "why don't you swap in a 2JZ" plug goes in.