Lug Nut Thread Engagement

[dino420]

I bought a set of 15 inch factory Avalon wheels to use during the winter. I mounted the winter tires on them and wanted to test fit them. I bolted one wheel on and found that the lug nuts do not engage as many threads on the studs as they did with my other wheels on. I am assuming this is due to a different offset with the Avalon rims. The end of the stud is not flush with the end of the nut but there are still a good number of threads engaged. Do I need to be concerned that not all the threads from the studs are engaged with the nuts? I am able to torque the nuts to 85 Lbs without issue. There are no clearance issues with the Avalon wheels. Sorry for the dumb question, I am new to swapping rims.
Thanks

[95PimpingCamry]

Let me get this strait, the wheel is still securely held on? what I mean by that is that the wheel makes contact with the hub and all of the lugs nuts and it does not wobble at all. If so then it has nothing to do with offset, offset is the position of the hub on the wheel relative to the center of the wheel. What you are encountering is that the holes for the lugs on the wheels are a little bit thicker. assuming that you have no spacers on your hubs then this should not be an issue as long as you have the correct lug nuts (i.e. flat, tapered, round). This website partially explains lug nut types:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=102

In my experience (I don't know if this applies to all Toyota wheels) the lug nuts used for the stock steelies are just tapered lugs nuts and the lug nuts used for stock alloy rims use a type of washer and the lug nuts them selfs extend into the wheel a little bit. What I mean by this can be seen in the following picture. The portion of the lugnut on the right actually extends into the hole in the wheel and then the washer pushes on the wheel to hold it on.



P.S. This is a McGaurd locking lug nut, so that is why it is perfectly round.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Eye8Pussies]

^ what he said...

check that you have the right type of lugnut. you'll need oem toyota lugnuts for the wheels to sit 100% properly

[dino420]

In my experience (I don't know if this applies to all Toyota wheels) the lug nuts used for the stock steelies are just tapered lugs nuts and the lug nuts used for stock alloy rims use a type of washer and the lug nuts them selfs extend into the wheel a little bit. What I mean by this can be seen in the following picture. The portion of the lugnut on the right actually extends into the hole in the wheel and then the washer pushes on the wheel to hold it on.

Thats the answer I was looking for. I need a special lug nut that extends into the hole in the wheel! Thanks a ton for such a quick answer, I really appreicate the good advice. I guess I'll have to go to the dealer to get them. Anyone know where I can get them elsewhere?
Thanks!

[stockmover]

Try ebay.

Originally Posted by dino420

Thats the answer I was looking for. I need a special lug nut that extends into the hole in the wheel! Thanks a ton for such a quick answer, I really appreicate the good advice. I guess I'll have to go to the dealer to get them. Anyone know where I can get them elsewhere?
Thanks!

[Kep]

A rule of thumb that I once was told was that a bolt should engage about as many threads as the bolt's diameter. So if you had a 1/2" diameter bolt it should thread into about 1/2" worth of threads (a 1/2" "thick" nut) to take advantage of its full strength. With a tire rim, the nut should additionally slide into the hole of the rim to fill up the space between the bolt and the sides of the hole as well as pressing the rim tightly against the hub.

Kep

Kep