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Old 05-01-2008, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation Urghhh... Clutch engagement + Alarm + Starting problems

I am having problem starting my car. Here is the situation:

As some of you know I just installed a new clutch last Monday, and installed a Short Ram Intake last week Thursday.

When I first turn the ignition I hear the seat beat chime, normally I would wait till the chime goes away then I engage the clutch and turn the key. When I am in a rush I would not wait for the chimes and just simply hit the clutch, turn key and start car (guilty I do it sometimes but not often).

But now sometimes when I do a rush start, my clutch won't engage unless I wait for the chime to disappear which normal I do not need to do. I do not get a Check engine light, when my car does start, it starts perfectly normal without a hiccup.

Since I have a compustar keyless entry/alarm installed (most basic compustar alarm, no autostart) the mechanic said it might be the alarm or neutral switch sensor.

Also when I had my alarm installed, the guy asked me if I wanted the kill switch installed? Me and the time knew nothing about this asked for an explanation, and he said it would hard to steal the car if the alarm was not disengaged but he also warned that if my alarm died, I wouldn't be able to start my car. Anyways I said yes to that because I live in an apartment so I wanted extra protection. So going back to the mechanic he said it is possible the kill switch is now affecting my clutch engagement, and said I should get the guy who installed my alarm to CAP the kill switch it to find out if that is the problem.

So I need input/suggestion to this please, because in a life and death situation if I can't start my car instantly I am a dead guy in a Camry.

Thanks in advance for the replies!!!!!!
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try to reword that a bit....

if the clutch is engaged, the car will jump and stall on start...or are you talking about the clutch neutral safety switch not seeming to be engaged to allow starting?
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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try to reword that a bit....

if the clutch is engaged, the car will jump and stall on start...or are you talking about the clutch neutral safety switch not seeming to be engaged to allow starting?
he talking about the neutral safety switch for the after market alarm. the clutch will only engage after the 5 sec (maybe longer?) door chime goes away. there are not trouble codes and the when the car starts up, it start up with no problem..

i think your referring to the kill switch as the starter kill switch. which disable the starter once the alarm is set off. and as far as the neutral saftey switch, doesnt that just detect if the gears or in the netural?
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try to reword that a bit....

if the clutch is engaged, the car will jump and stall on start...or are you talking about the clutch neutral safety switch not seeming to be engaged to allow starting?
The car never stalls after starting

Plain and simple, Hold clutch, turn key and start, neutral gear.

Problem, hold clutch (any harder and I will go through the firewall ) turn key and no start unless the all the chimes go away.
If I try to start the car in the middle of the chiming, the car will not turn over (assuming I know how to start a manual car).

I am wondering if a kill switch will affect this delay for the clutch to engage to start the car.

Or if it something else, like a bad clutch wiring when they were reassembling the the clutch
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he talking about the neutral safety switch for the after market alarm. the clutch will only engage after the 5 sec (maybe longer?) door chime goes away. there are not trouble codes and the when the car starts up, it start up with no problem..
Thats about right, it would take about 5 secs for the chimes to go away then it will start!
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well, then long story short, bring it back to the alarm place to get it fixed. it has nothing to do with your new clutch or short ram. nothing inside the car needs to be touched to change a clutch
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Thats about right, it would take about 5 secs for the chimes to go away then it will start!

its a semi diesel gotta let the spark plugs warm up..


yeah i would take it back to where you got it install and go from there. where did you get it installed? if at a circuit city or best buy or any similar type store, you gotta be aggressive to make sure they do it right the second. at least that is what i had to do to my mom's car..
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well, then long story short, bring it back to the alarm place to get it fixed. it has nothing to do with your new clutch or short ram. nothing inside the car needs to be touched to change a clutch
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its a semi diesel gotta let the spark plugs warm up..


yeah i would take it back to where you got it install and go from there. where did you get it installed? if at a circuit city or best buy or any similar type store, you gotta be aggressive to make sure they do it right the second. at least that is what i had to do to my mom's car..
So this has nothing to do with the starter, or ignition systems right????
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no. it shouldnt. after you take it back to the place that did the alarm and it still happening, then you want to start looking into other thing that can cause it to do what it is doing.
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