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Old 06-03-2008, 01:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb !!Serious 5sfe Tuning!! Go FAST

Can anyone tell me anything about the "5sgte"

5sfe Block + 3sgte or 3sge Head = 5Sge/5sgTe

Swapping the heads....

I am planning to do this but, I have NEVER seen anyone do it before. Only like 2 cars on youtube and those were celicas (5sGTE Turbo). Some people say the heads bolt up Directly and some say you have to cut the block...soo i don't know? I found a website who sells the GE heads and i'm going to buy but need to find out everything first.

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Old 06-03-2008, 01:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So why are you stating this thread over on the For Sale forum? Moved to appropriate forum....
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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forget the idea better off swapping in a 3s-gte and buying a stroker kit which will bring it to the same displacement and less crap to deal with!!!
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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fitment is all crazy, and its better to just swap the full 3sgte ... you wont have to worry about issues, since it will be a full stock motor
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OR.. just throw in a 1MZ.
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1MZ still isnt a performance engine, though .... economy head, just like the 5S

if he really wants to get some work done, the 3SGTE would be the best for a project without having to do much work .... once the swap is done, you can just throw some bolt-ons on like the MR2 guys and have fun
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I am planning to do this

ANd you will be for a loooooooong time. Not practical, poor hp/$ ratio, go 3s-gte.
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the one positive is a 1mz would be a LOT cheaper. 3sgte is sick, but 99.8% of the people posting here dont have the knowledge to swap it, including myself
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what knowledge is that?

have a shop jig up some mounting points if you cant fab yourself, and the rest is just removing 5S-FE parts and inserting the 3S-GTE with all its attached stuff

swapping is more time consuming than difficult, if you can remain organized & read instructions
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what instructions

its not worth it reguardless. want a fast car...sell yours.

but if your gonna do it anyways then the 3sgte will cost MUCH more and take MUCH longer. but ull get better gains once ya start modding the engine. the 1mz id only do if you planned on S/C or turboing it WITH a 5 speed. much cheaper, better TQ but its not a very strong engine past 9 psi so upgrading would be needed.
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read a Celica/MR2 3S-GTE engine manual, the instructions will be approx the same - you just have to realize when they say "put x here", it will be in a diff place on the Camry
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i thought about doing the 3sgte swap but no one around here had ever done it or had the knowledge do it including me
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dude, jus get a 4th gen celica ( like mine) or early 90's mr2in that case, dont spend tha time on a camry to do this IMO, than again i am EXTREMELY biased
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read a Celica/MR2 3S-GTE engine manual, the instructions will be approx the same - you just have to realize when they say "put x here", it will be in a diff place on the Camry
yeah i know...ive seen then posted before, just though that comment was funny.

but yeah, ONLY cosider a swap with the camry if you LOVE your camry, cuz a smaller car like a celica, corolla or MR2 with the same engine will be a MUCH better base for a build and you will enjoy it much more. not only that but u have more commonality as far as swaps so more people to help. there are only a couple of people around here who can actually help ya with the swap and i promise no write up avalible will get ya through it without help. teh V6 swap is MUCH easier and cheaper since it came from a camry. the 1mz or 3vz engines are pretty common as well, so pretty cheap.
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