sticking on a short ram, mpg?

[94cylcamry]

I guess the whole short ram vs k&n filter vs CAI topic has been kinda beaten to death...fortunately I'm not asking opinions on that. I've decided to bite the bullet and just get a short ram off ebay...I don't know. Anyway, I searched around and found that some people killed their mpg when they got a short ram, and others improved their mpg.

Which is the general one? I don't really know enough to reason it out in my head...I was originally thinking that if you can pump more air into the cylinders, you can also pump in more gas, which would hurt mpg. But then I had heard that if you have a dirty air filter, that you can hurt mpg.

So as you can tell I'm very new to this and really have no idea. Thanks for your information on this.

[CamBOT]

SRI does not do much in HP gains, very minimal abour 5~7 hp (even that is pushing it). Also some argue that SRI is useless since it will just suck in the hot air from the engine bay. Once you are moving there will be lots of air in the engine bay so this wont really affect performance.

A SRI setup will greatly improve your throttle response. And the sound is just beautiful. Since you have a 5Sfe it will scream louder and deeper than a V6.

MPG: A SRI will slightly improve your MPG. However, ever since i've installed the setup my foot has gotten heavier. The engine sounds so amazing that you'd want to drive hard all the time. But driving conservatively you will see an improvement in your MPG.

Injen, Spectre and Weapon R intakes are quite popular on TN.

Ask EEngineer about Weapon R, I think N3SQ1CK has a spectre setup. (in fact you can find the video on you tube, type in camry intake)

All the brand name aside, you'll be okay with getting the cheapest one out there. While more expensive setups will allow more air through, the engine can only handle so much. So If I were you i'd get the chepo ones for $50 bucks.


Anyhoos hope this helps

[eurohazard]

<- Ebay short ram intake

result: No change in mpg

Do it for looks, do it for the sound, do it for the ease of maintenance.

But it will not give you much hp (I might have more hp at the higher RPMs, but I know I lost some down in low RPMs).

[xet]

you should have no change but you really cant know for your application until you try. i personally saw a sizable increase even though my old air filter wasnt that dirty but who knows.

[Venom_5]

Weapon-R Dragon Intake (SRI):

+ no change in mpg, i get 28+mpg consistently
+ hopefully by the end of the summer my car will be on the dyno, so we will know if there were any power gains/losses

[Luckynumber5]

My bet is the average peak power will show little to no change. dyno numbers can fluctuate + or - the few horsepower an intake is supposed to get you.

[bigbird]

id honestly say ur gonna loose a little MPG. ONLY based on the (near)fact that youll be runnign the engine a little harder to hear the magnificent sound it will produce.

[94cylcamry]

Haha...to be honest, I probably will be. I hadn't even considered that. But yeah...I mean...I've seen those videos on youtube where people don't even get the pipe, they just pull off the stock airbox and attach a cone filter. I dunno. I kinda wanted the pipe.

At the same time, I don't need anything ridiculous...just a pipe and a cone filter. So instead of going with Weapon R or Injen(wow, Injen is expensive!), I was thinking of just getting a cheap one off Ebay.

Although now that I think about it...my local Autozone does have Spectre intake parts. I'll look into that. But the only pipe I saw there looked a little ridiculous...all these joints and things made for expanding whereas the ebay one is just a smooth pipe. I don't know, we'll see.

Thanks for the input guys

[xet]

seriously just go with the cheapest one that will fit the maf (i forget if 5s have one even) but w/e will fit and work. i only got the injen because it was from a sg member for much cheaper than new price. they should all sound and perform nearly the same and i think my injen even looks a bit funny in the stock engine bay hah

[94cylcamry]

Haha alright, sounds good to me.

Hey, does anyone know the diameter of the stock intake pipe? Does 2.5" sound right?

And it turns out N3SQ1CK(or someone with a similar name?) made the tutorial on youtube that I'd heard about...just taking off the airbox and attaching the cone filter to the stock pipe. That's tempting as well, but I hear the sound is nicer with the pipe. Lol.

[Black95Cam]

Originally Posted by eurohazard

<- Ebay short ram intake

result: No change in mpg

Do it for looks, do it for the sound, do it for the ease of maintenance.

But it will not give you much hp (I might have more hp at the higher RPMs, but I know I lost some down in low RPMs).

+1

your driving habit will change your MPG.. when i first got it installed i lost mpg due to the fact i keep hammering it to hear the intake. but when the rising gas price, i keep the shifting points under 2 grand and was able to get 24 mpg city only.

and yeah you'll lose some low end and gain top end..

[zoni]

i vote k&n replacement for stock filter... you get cooler air AND better flow. because it gets the air supply from the lower front fender well/front bumper... follow those plastic pipes buried in there for truth.
sri gets better flow and warmer air...
cai gets better flow and colder air.

as far as MPG...
same or less mpg with sri
k&n prolly same or a touch more
cai same or maybe a little less if you drive harder...

[eyeball96]

I get less mpg with the 94 1mz,and the CAI, than I do with the 96 1mz with the stock box!

....but its because, like Bigbird said, I love hearing the sound it makes

[bigbird]

id say a cheap ebay one with a reusable airfilter would be fine. there is little or no differance in performance over the stock box. though the stock box does act slightly like a CAI its restricted when it dips down under and around the fuse boxes and battery. it also pulls air from behind the headlight...which is still in the engine bay. the CAIs avalible for the gen3 run into the fender. reguardless dont buy this for performance...ull be dissapointed.

[94cylcamry]

Eh, it's not much for performance...I'm curious how it works, and I've been wanting to look into it for awhile now.

Questions:

1. What size is the hole for the pipe on the throttle body? 2.5"? 3"?

2. With the stock setup...there isn't just the airbox and the pipe...there's the smaller square box connected like halfway along and below the intake pipe. What's this for? Is it something I should be concerned with? Thanks.