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Old 06-25-2008, 02:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Brake Felt Soft :(.

Hi guys,

I still have problems with my brake....when press i felt it's so soft and can be push to the floor easily.
I have done the following... bleed brake fluid, the brake pad is like 80% new, what else can i try ???

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ss brake lines should help
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Sorry what is SS brake line???

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You can check all the brake cylinders (on each wheel you have one) to see if one of them is leaking, and check master brake cylinder aswell for leaks...

Are you loosing brake fluid (measure in brake fluid canister, to see if the level is lowering)?
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Check the brake fluid level.
If there is not enough, get ur brake fluid drained and refilled.
If there is enough, is the fluid dark? Drain and refill.
Otherwise, just drain and refill it anyways to release the air.

Also brake fluid absorbs water. After a long while, the brake fluid absorbs too much water and won't work as well anymore. To fix it? Drain and refill.

So yeah, drain and refill and remember to release all the air out.


If that doesn't work. Come back. A drain and refill shouldn't cost you more than $100? I'm not too sure because my friend does it for me.
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You can check all the brake cylinders (on each wheel you have one) to see if one of them is leaking, and check master brake cylinder aswell for leaks...

Are you loosing brake fluid (measure in brake fluid canister, to see if the level is lowering)?
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Before doing anything else, I would try to find a friend or relative with a similiar car to yours and drive that car. If no friend or relative is available, consider a used car lot. Many people complain Camry brakes are too soft. It could just be the nature of the beast compared to what you have been used to.

If the car you drive seems to have a firmer brake feel than your's, then consider the suggestions others have posted here.

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Many people complain Camry brakes are too soft. It could just be the nature of the beast compared to what you have been used to.
Seems like mushy brakes became a common complaint, especially starting in '02. However - it should not be going almost down to the floor regardless. My gen 5.5 has 'soft' brakes compared to other cars but they're just fine. I was driving an aunt's '01 LS400 two months ago and her brakes were even more mushy than mine..I forgot to mention it to her. She should have it checked out.
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also r u using dot 3 or dot 5 fluid? I hear dot 5 will cause softer brakes.
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I also forgot to add...say the car is not running (engine off) each time when you press the brake it should get harder isn't ??? BUT on my car it feel the same (soft brake) it doesn't matter how many times i depress the brake.

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Yes, with the engine off, when you pump it will get hard.
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BUT on my car it feel the same (soft brake) it doesn't matter how many times i depress the brake.
I suspect the master cylinder is going out if there is no leakage. If there was leakage, the reservoir would be empty and you be off the road by now. Engine running or not, the pedal should be hard toward the toe board. Air in the system would be a spongy feel, but just plain go'in to the floor says to me the cups in the master cylinder are shot and it can't build or hold pressure.

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I also forgot to add...say the car is not running (engine off) each time when you press the brake it should get harder isn't ??? BUT on my car it feel the same (soft brake) it doesn't matter how many times i depress the brake.
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That usually indicates a defective power brake booster. Before anything else check the vacuum line to brake booster for cracks. If all appears to be OK, check the booster itself.

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"I suspect the master cylinder is going out if there is no leakage. If there was leakage, the reservoir would be empty and you be off the road by now. Engine running or not, the pedal should be hard toward the toe board. Air in the system would be a spongy feel, but just plain go'in to the floor says to me the cups in the master cylinder are shot and it can't build or hold pressure."


How much would replacing a master cylinder cost?
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