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Old 06-29-2008, 10:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wierd electrical problem.

Any chance that someone knows a fuse or relay that would cause the speedometer, tachometer, temp gauge, transmission indicator lights, air conditioner, inside cabin fan and radiator fans all to fail and to allow the radio, dome light, cigarette lighter, and head lights to still work? The 95 Camry 5SFE still starts smoothly and runs.

On the way home tonight my Camry had a conniption. I was driving on the highway and I heard a faint click. Simultaneously the speedometer, tachometer, temp gauge, transmission indicator lights, air conditioner, inside cabin fan and radiator fans (as I found out shortly later) all failed. However, the radio, dome light, cigarette lighter, and headlights still work. The car was still running and I was driving at highway speeds so I figured the air flow would keep the radiator cooled OK (I hope it did!).

A possibility, my air conditioner compressor has been chattering off and on for several months. There is now, what appears to be, melted rubber residue between the compressor’s pulley and the compressor and more residue that appears to have flung off onto the engine block. Is it possible that the clutch or compressor failed and somehow overloaded a fuse or relay? Can someone tell me if the melted rubber is indicative of damage to either the clutch or the compressor?



I thought I’d throw this out and see if anyone had any ideas. I am going to try reading some schematics and see if I can figure out the two fusible links on the battery or maybe some other main fuse that might affect only part of the car.

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Sounds quite probably either a fuse/fusible link or a relay may have blown. Giving a distinctive click I'd check your relays first to see if they're all intact as well as your fuses/fusible links. If it is linked to the compressor, mayhap if it went it shorted out something a blew a fuse/relay. Just keep in mind, putting one back in may again blow if the short it could have caused is probably still there.
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Curiously, it turned out to be a 10 Amp fuse in the JB1 fuse panel behine the driverside coin box. I have verified all of the functions except the radiator A/C it blows the fuse again so I have disconnected the A/C for the moment.

Same question on the melted rubber between the pulley and the compressor as shown above. Does anyone know if this is just the magnetic clutch or is it the compressor?

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Looks to me like something (the old fanbelt?) got jammed in the pulley. somehow...
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Nice and easy! Gotta love that! and you know the source of the short.
As for the AC, I'm not really sure. Obviously something went tits up on it and is causing a short. What's that thin black wire/hose? If it's a wire, looks like it somehow got caught in the pulley and melted, which would easily explain the short and the melted rubber everywhere if it is the covering that has melted.
Not sure how easy it is to get around the compressor at all, but would see what wires are where and try tracing them to see if you can find a short or problem with the wiring at the compressor and go from there.
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Turned out that the electromagnet (the stator) had shorted out on the rotor somehow. It looked like it had been rubbing for a long time. The stuff that I thought was rubber actually was plastic. The stator is covered in plastic and I guess it melted and oozed through the cracks. Then it either dried or flew onto the engine.

I was able to replace the stator and get it back to working. The wire, by the way, is supposed to be there. It is the power source for the magnet.

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i'm going to have to look into that cuz my car is doing the same thing same fuse but now my headlights don't work where do i find this magnet???
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Turned out that the electromagnet (the stator) had shorted out on the rotor somehow. It looked like it had been rubbing for a long time. The stuff that I thought was rubber actually was plastic. The stator is covered in plastic and I guess it melted and oozed through the cracks. Then it either dried or flew onto the engine.

I was able to replace the stator and get it back to working. The wire, by the way, is supposed to be there. It is the power source for the magnet.

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Well done. Good job on troubleshooting the problem.

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Thanks.

The electro magnet is inside of the pulley of the air conditioning compressor. Look at the red marks in my photo above. If you see chunks of melted plastic you too are a candidate.

So far I replaced the stator and all seems well again. I'd sure like to know if a failing compressor could cause the pulley/stator to overheat enough to melt the stator. Anyone?

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Glad you found it! and as well, good to know. Hopefully your compressor isn't failing though.
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