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Old 07-05-2008, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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jack tipped, rotors CRASH

EDIT: to make a long story short, heres the facts:

basically, my jack failed and the rotors crashed onto the inner part of a wheel that i was trying to put on.

i went ahead and put on the wheel and tested it by going up and down my driveway a couple times.

as i lowered the car, i heard creaks and groans from the brake area that normally dont come when lowering a car back to the ground.

when i turned the car off after testing it, i heard a whining sound coming from the area in question.

when i apply pressure to the car in any direction (pushing it away, pushing down, etc.), even slightly, i hear squeaks and groans from the area.

any ideas on what can be going on ? i'll check around tomorrow for loose nuts, etc. but i'm not positive what else the accident could have effected ...
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what brand jack? why didnt you have the car on jackstands as well?
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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what brand jack? why didnt you have the car on jackstands as well?
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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sturdy jackstands is a must.
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ya i know ... but i wasnt doing any work on the car besides changing the wheels. it was like changing a flat tire ...

regardless, i'd use them if i had them.

i was using those dinky jacks that come with the car for emergencies. i purposely did this in my garage instead of in my driveway to avoid this, as my driveway is a little sloped in some places.
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did you check the dust sheild? that may have bent into the rotors. im curious about that whining though. does it make this sound when the car is off and parked?
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Pull out the dust shield, the same thing happened to me while changing a flat on uneven pavement. It should not have caused any lasting damage.
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urgh, nasty problem.
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yea it is in fact the dust shield ... i looked at the top part of it last night and it appeared to be fine so i thought it could be something else, but forgot about checking the bottom part where the impact actually was ... hehe

how easy/difficult/expensive/feasible is it to get someone to replace it ? can i just bend it back ? it doesnt seem too malleable but i saw it suggested elsewhere.

seems like the whining was related to the bigger wheels i had on. i put back the steelies and no whining. yes, i pulled the car back into the garage, put in in park, and turned it off. a couple seconds later, the sound came. i was gonna wait till i drop the car to put the wheels on anyway so i'll keep waiting and investigate that more later ...
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Just feel lucky you didn't get hurt. Jacks fail, which is why, as everyone's said, its good to use jack stands. But to be honest if all I was doing is swapping wheels, I wouldn't have used jack stands either. I would have used a better jack though.

You can bend the backing plate back, just make sure when you do you don't make the top contact the rotor. They can be a bit tricky that way. As for the whining, make sure your new tires aren't like barely rubbing on the strut or anything. Seems like a odd sound though. Keep us updated!
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thanks ! i'll try that tonight ...

and yes, believe me the possibilities of what could have happened to both me (most importantly) and the car if that wheel wasnt there have crossed my mind. im buying a jack and jack stands stands before i do anything else ... this kind of safety is priceless.
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thanks for all your help guys ... i nudged the backing plate away from the rotor with a flathead screwdriver and created a couple-millimeter gap.

i dunno what was causing the whining and other problems with the bigger wheels but thats another issue i'll deal with later. sorry ... i got panicked and thought the problem was more complicated than this, and i didnt feel like changing wheels again to troubleshoot so i just posted here first.
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When I do stuff like that I just shove the tire under the frame so if the jack lets go the car will still be supported. It's not as good as a jackstand, though.
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jackstands for everything no matter what better safe than sorry.
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