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Old 07-26-2008, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Where did this fluid come from?
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That is my oil pan from the I4 in my sig.

I have NO idea when the last time the pan has been dropped, so I dont know how long it's been doing this.
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Are those metal shavings?
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Yes, non-magnetic metal shavings.
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Ugh. How thick are those chunks?... are they really thin flakes?? Kinda hard to tell from the pix. Could they be normal break-in sort of bits? (Probably wishful thinking.)

Could also be chips from the block/head/whatever machining processes that quickly made their way to the pan and have been there since day 1. Again, might be wishful thinking.
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The shavings are gold and I don't think the head is gold; and the shavings are thin.
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they almost look like pieces of a bearing that wore thin and broke away. sorry to say no matter what it is, it really cant be good.
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Good that they aren't magnetic, so it isn't bearing material, but definitely not good either way. Break-in material is usually fine metallic grains in the oil. Something in your engine is shedding those pieces. They may be silver, but just stained gold from the engine oil.
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Bearings are magnetic? I always thought they weren't magnetic.
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Those look like brass shavings to me.
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But what in the engine is brass?
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Ball or needle bearing shavings would be magnetic. Babbit bearings (used for the crankshaft bearings) would not be, as I believe it's usually an alloy of tin and copper, and normally is very light grey in color.

Ah, this from wikipedia:

Modern Babbitt bearings
In more modern practice, the crankshaft and connecting rod big end bearings in a modern automobile engine have bearings made of a replaceable steel shell, keyed to the bearing caps. The inner surface of the steel shell is plated with a coating of bronze which is in turn coated with a thin layer of Babbitt metal as the bearing surface.


Gold colored, eh? Can you scrape on the surface of one of those flakes to see if the gold color goes all the way thru?... or is it just on the surface, like a heat discoloration? If they're gold throughout, it might be your crank bearings have worn thru the babbiting and into the bronze. Not good.
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Looks like brass or copper. Could be bearing material. They're huge!! I think if it were serious you'd have a knocking by now. Do oil analysis to see if your wear metals are out of line.
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Looks like brass or copper. Could be bearing material. They're huge!! I think if it were serious you'd have a knocking by now. Do oil analysis to see if your wear metals are out of line.

Ive always heard about oil analysis, but never knew how to do it. Can you help me out with this? What do I need to do and how much does it usually cost?

I havent heard any knocking. The engine has been running just fine. Have had a slight drop in gas mileage over the last month, which is why Im doing a complete tune up on it now. I dont know how long these could have been in the pan, because this is the first time IVE dropped it, and Ive only had the car for just under a year. My step brother had it before me, and he knows nothing about cars.
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