Tranny Fluid Drain and Fill

[dleccord]

Hi.

I have a 94 2.2 camry and I would like to do a drain and fill. i have three quarts of Toyota ATF. I am aware that 2/3 of the fluid is still in that (thingymabob). But that's alrite. I will be cleaning the gunk on the bottom of the pan, BUT, should I drain and then drop the pan or drop the pan WITH fluid still inside? Also, what socket size are needed?

Thanks

[Kingdom934]

Originally Posted by dleccord

Hi.

I have a 94 2.2 camry and I would like to do a drain and fill. i have three quarts of Toyota ATF. I am aware that 2/3 of the fluid is still in that (thingymabob). But that's alrite. I will be cleaning the gunk on the bottom of the pan, BUT, should I drain and then drop the pan or drop the pan WITH fluid still inside? Also, what socket size are needed?

Thanks

Hmmm....

I don't know what size you need to remove the bolt...but I can assure on this - DRAIN before DROP. You could drop the pan BEFORE drain...but unless you want to be showering in ATF, I wouldn't advise it. Keep in mind that even after you drain the pan, there will still be a fair amount of ATF inside.

Also, you might want to get a new gasket for the pan.

[dleccord]

I'll be buying the gasket tomorrow for ~$11 at Toyota.

I know there is a strainer when you pop out the pan. Are you suppose to clean it with kerosene?

Also, the magnets. Am I suppose to clean it or REPLACE it?

Thanks!

[bronzemaxell]

you will need a #10 hex key, and possible a breaker bar or water pipe to extend the handle for more torque, i would drain and refill a few time until ATF is cherry red color, and then drop the pan, change gasket, clean or replace screen, magnet one last time.

[Albuynp Ryeno]

what exactly do you mean you got toyota atf? Type-IV? Check to make sure your cars needs that fuild. Some models say toyota atf and same say just dextron. Idk if the 2 fluids are interchanigle tho. I just wanted to give u heads up incase u got the wrong fluid.

[dleccord]

The bottle doesn't say whether it's Dex 4, but in the back of the bottle says:

"Formulated to replace DEXRON II or DEXRON III in applicable Toyota models."

I have a 1994 Toyota Camry 2.2L Auto. So help me out here.

[dleccord]

This is what the front of the bottle looks like.

[ASG14]

^ Thats fine.

Drain BEFORE you drop the pan.

Clean the magnets and reuse.

[Kep]

I kind of agree with Bronzemaxell. Multiple changes (about 2.5 quarts each) would reassure you that you have gotten an almost complete fluid change (without the dangers of a power flush). If your last drain and refill was 60,000 miles or less you can do the changes as close together as you like (drive around a couple of days in between to mix the old and new). If your last drain & fill was over 100,000 miles I would be much more conservative and maybe only do them about 2 months apart so you can detect any minor problems and stop before doing any more damage. The longer you wait between drain & refills (past 60,000 miles) is that there will be build up that the new fluid dissolves resulting in poorer shifting from chunks dislodging and voids being created. I like to try and do a drain and refill about every other oil change (filter change every 60,000+ miles).

I go back and forth on when to change the filter (before or after the fluid clears up). The filter has a fairly large screen that really only catches the larger pieces of crud, not fine particles.

Don't forget the differential needs love too! Always open the differential fill plug first and then the drain plug. It is embarrassing to drain the differential and not be able to refill it because the fill plug sticks.

Kep

[dleccord]

Originally Posted by Kep

Don't forget the differential needs love too! Always open the differential fill plug first and then the drain plug. It is embarrassing to drain the differential and not be able to refill it because the fill plug sticks.

The differential plug would be where the dip stick is correct? Do I need any weird funnel for this?

[bronzemaxell]

Originally Posted by dleccord

The differential plug would be where the dip stick is correct? Do I need any weird funnel for this?

differential refill plug is behind the transmission, in the area near the rear subframe on driver side, use a 17MM 6 pt wrench for that bolt, and i use a $3 syphon pump from walmart to pump the ATF back in the differential, take about 1.7 qt. very easy with a syphon pump, and level the car, when it overflow from the filler hole, that is when you stop.

the differential drain plug is same size as the transmission plug, use #10 hex key.

[dleccord]

Is the differential and tranny not the same?

[Kep]

The differential and the tranny are usually different. The 5SFE engine has both. The differential should hold 1.7 quarts of ATF Dexron II (or III)

Kep