3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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Ok so shifting from 1st to 2nd even when warm is very slow and engine revs are high, so the bands likely suspect.. I'm going to change the the atf and put in a new filter to try and take the easy route becuse the fluid is brown, but my question is (and this is my first toyota) is the bands and/or clutch pack something I can get to by taking off the pan or will the entire tranny have to come out... I do have a spare tranny with 191xxx miles on it which should be good to go....any ideas?
95 2.2l with power shift option button thing on the console...
Sounds like the trans is on its way out. Just swap in your spare, since the trans will have to be pulled to get at the internals anyway. You may want to have the spare trans checked out or rebuilt before the swap. If you're confident in its condition, then go ahead and swap it in.
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Ok I understand that but can I get to the actual bands if I take off the pan? or is that a nogo
I have never tried, that so I can't really answer that question. (My guess is no, but I'm not certain.) What I can suggest is that you go over to the Camry forum on AutomotiveForums.com and download the generation 3 Toyota Camry Factory Service Manual over on that forum, and refer to the trans section of the manual. The manuals are stickied over there at the top of the forum.
Ok I understand that but can I get to the actual bands if I take off the pan? or is that a nogo
no.. you have to suspend the engine with an engine brace then drop the tranny and go from there on.. if you have a spare.. i recommend rebuilding it first then putting it in.. cause once you get it on and something goes wrong then you gotta pay for labor once more..
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no, you can't get to anything by dropping the pan except for the filter and the solenoids
as for your tranny fluid being BROWN....that is a very bad sign. Black or maroon is fine, since maroon is dirty, and black is really dirty. But born usually means that that the atf is actually breaking down and probably starting to sludge up as well.
in the future, also remember that the differential and the tranny itself are different components and require separate drain/fills/flushes on the 4cyl
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no, you can't get to anything by dropping the pan except for the filter and the solenoids
as for your tranny fluid being BROWN....that is a very bad sign. Black or maroon is fine, since maroon is dirty, and black is really dirty. But born usually means that that the atf is actually breaking down and probably starting to sludge up as well.
in the future, also remember that the differential and the tranny itself are different components and require separate drain/fills/flushes on the 4cyl
black? my instructor (20 years in the field) say it should be a transparent red/maroon color.
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Originally Posted by Tony the Tiger
The Camry is a car that I can rip out someone's pride, stab it, beat it, and completely bash their egos, and it's so ridiculous that the person comes back with a hysterical laugh... ROFL They got trainlengthed by a Camry that in their mind, was a 18 sec car.
hm really? maybe I'm thinking about engine oil here....because black oil isn't out of the norm...but brown would be...
Fresh engine oil goes in a golden color, except for Royal Purple which goes in dark purple then turns a golden color after a few miles of driving, and yes I use RP. Then the oil turns med. brown after a few hundred to 1000 miles, and gets darker and darker towards the end of the its life.
Black oil is not good IMO. To me that's a sign that the oil has gone beyond its usable life, burned, and is no longer doing it's job. Either that, or there is a huge amount of soot getting in the oil if it turns black after a few hundred miles.
Every 3000-3500miles, I change my oil, and It has never comes out black. Maybe a very dark brown, but not black.
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hm really? maybe I'm thinking about engine oil here....because black oil isn't out of the norm...but brown would be...
guess it makes a lot more sense for brown from red. maroon is definitely okay
well there is a classmate that said toyota came out with a new tranny oil (assuming its in the 08/09 models) that is suppose to last the life time of the vehicle.. so those probably will be black if it suppose to last the life time of the vehicle..
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Originally Posted by Tony the Tiger
The Camry is a car that I can rip out someone's pride, stab it, beat it, and completely bash their egos, and it's so ridiculous that the person comes back with a hysterical laugh... ROFL They got trainlengthed by a Camry that in their mind, was a 18 sec car.
well there is a classmate that said toyota came out with a new tranny oil (assuming its in the 08/09 models) that is suppose to last the life time of the vehicle.. so those probably will be black if it suppose to last the life time of the vehicle..
I think you're referring to Toyota Type WS ATF. IMO any kind of lubricating fluid won't last the life of a car, assuming that is longer than 7-10 years. I would still change it as a precautionary measure. My gen 5.5 uses Toyota Type T-IV ATF and the dipstick states "Under normal driving conditions, it is not necessary to change ATF" - needless to say I changed it a few months ago. I did two drain and refills.. The difference in shift quality was quickly apparent. I will definitely do this every 15-30K miles. My fluid had 28K miles on it after 3.5 years, so while it's not really old it wasn't new either. It came out kind of dark (smelled fine though, not burnt) and I dumped it into a clear container and there was a bunch of fine sediment floating around. My car is smoother than ever and the ATF is still bright pink/red.. I have to do my mom's gen 3.5 soon.
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