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Old 09-19-2008, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1MZ Auto Tranny in 5SFTE

Guys,

Desperately need help here.. I am in the midst of getting the 5S turbo.. Need help here regarding the 1MZFE Auto tranny into 5s..

What sorts of stuff that I need ? What about the ECU handling on the auto gear? My 5S is 4 gear and 1MZ is with 5 gear? Do I need to change drive shaft and knuckle as well??

By the way, I am driving a Gen 3 Year 96 5SFE..

Please guide .........Hope to get replies and help ......

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i dont think the 1mz A541E tranny will bolt up man, at least ive never seen anyone try it. but its wouldnt be much better, it could handle more tq but has the same # of gears as the one in the 4cyl. so unless you have more power then the V6 it wouldnt be any faster because the gear ratios are taller in the A541E than the 4cyl tranny.
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the gearing will be set longer for the v6 than a 5s as well, so your gearing might be kinda jenky...

search around about 3sgte swaps a bit, i have read that the manual E153 trans bolts to the 5sfe with a 3sgte flywheel, 1mz pressure plate, and s54 clutch disc. Dont quote me on it because I dont know from experience, but check it out...

Why not go manual? Kind of strange to build a turbo automatic setup, unless youre going for numbers like Tony's, but with the 5sfe those arent likely.
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S54 tranny or E153 tranny would be the best option for a 5S-FTE ... which are both manual

even if the 1MZ auto tranny bolted on, it would still have to have a valve body upgrade to take the extra power without slowing being killed off, unless your 5S-FTE build was pretty mild
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Guys,

Thanks for the reply and advise..I have another car..Wanted to build this 5S into turbo and auto coz area I stay is very heavy in traffic jam...I am not looking for a extreme number here...Wanted to boost it to about 10-11psi..Do I really need an upgrade in valve body with 10-11psi using ct26 or t3 setup? It should be about 180hp max,right?

How is the taller gear cope with the extra power from the turbo??Will it jerk like hell or it will be smooth like the 5S stocks box?

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If you want a built auto trans, go to a salvage yard, and get a 5S trans(A140). Then send it to this place, and have them build it up...

http://www.importperformancetrans.com/toyotaauto.shtml

When they send it back, swap it in, and you're good to go. N/A or boosted, it'll be better than your stock slush box.
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if your only lookin for 180 hp then i have to say it...why not just sell the car and get a V6? figuring out a way to swap in the 1mz auto, spending money on turbo and tranny upgrades. that would be more work then it would be worth for me...especially since its a daily driver. if its possible, and not to late id get rid of the car ya have and get the V6. just my opinion. if not then id go manual or drop the turbo build and roll stock.
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if your only lookin for 180 hp then i have to say it...why not just sell the car and get a V6? figuring out a way to swap in the 1mz auto, spending money on turbo and tranny upgrades. that would be more work then it would be worth for me...especially since its a daily driver. if its possible, and not to late id get rid of the car ya have and get the V6. just my opinion. if not then id go manual or drop the turbo build and roll stock.
agreed......cheaper and more satisfying in the long run
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Guys,

Noted.. Was thinking to sell off the car and get another car as well since the tranny and turbo will cost a lot as well...

I am from Asia and to built auto tranny is very hard..not many specialist around ....

I have to think twice in this project and hopefully can get someone to advise me on the auto tranny rebuilt...

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you would not need a built trans for that situation anyway... the stock 1mz auto trans would hold that power just fine
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^ what he said ... my first reply was under the assumption that it wasnt just a 180hp build, because like bigbird said, might as well get a V6 which makes the same power
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Venom,

The V6 is making the same power but to be legal here, it has to go through lotsa legal department to get it approve..Besides that, the Tax on 3.0 will be 4 times the Tax for 2.2...kekekkekekekekekekekeke

As for the 1MZ tranny, izit a direct bolt on ??
Will it be very jerky and not smooth?
Anyone have this setup b4?
What is the safe HP or Torque the A541 hold?
What sorta parts that I need to change in order to fit the 1MZ in the 5S??

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its definatly not a direct boltup and ive never even seen anyone attempt it either. i would think the A541 would be ok holding that much power. not much more but do what you can to upgrade it. have the valve body reworked and definatly get a tranny cooler.
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it would hold the power....but I don't think that it will bolt up at all...but then again, I haven't seen how the A140E looks in both size and shape of its components compared to the A541E.

But long story short, if the torque converters and flexwheelsls aren't identical...I wouldn't see how you would match them up.....things are a lot simpler on a manual transmission, as you can sometimes mix and match components or grind something down, etc. to make them physically match....a lot harder to do with something that's variable and holds liquid
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