3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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i try not to ask to many questions, and to do all the researhc myself, but i cannot, for the life of me, figure out what tranny to get! I'm going from auto to manual in a 94 5s-fe. I think the e153 and maybe the s53 or 54...but i want to know before i get it and not have to deal with taking the car apart and then finding out that its not a good fit. So what tranny should i get.
Keep in mind, the car is at the begining of a 3(ish) year project (limited only by my funds). I'm going for around 400 hp so the tranny needs to be able to handle that.
Heres a list of what im gonna end up doing
5sfe --> 5sgte (3sge head swap and 3sgte exhaust manifold)
t3/t4 turbo charger
3" exhaust (custom straight pipe)
Tranny swap (why i need you guys)
Forged internals
possibly NOs
Racing Suspension
Its gonna cost money and time i know, but i might have the fastest gen3 camry in america when im through
why in the hell wouldn't i go nos? people make such a huge deal out of it, but its just like putting a realy high octane gas in it...
Then your camry wont be a car anymore, a one-way-4wheels-jet instead
Being able to finish the line with a single kick-in not from the engine itself is just like doping in marathon, cheap shot i think. U wont see any musscle car on Nos, because they are CARS.
But then if you just want to reach the ulitimate goal of a pinch-runner camry on the track only, then I have nothing to say. Keep us posted
go with the e153. if you're going for high power, you'll snap the axles on the s54. the e153 axles can take more than 400whp before they'll go. the mr2 guys push crazy amounts of power on their trannys/axles. you can do a search on car-part.com to find the tranny.
but beyond that....with the 5sgte...all I will say is good luck. if you have lots of time, lots of knowledge and lots of money, then we'll see you finish it in the future sometime. otherwise....well, let's just say that a lot of people have proposed their want for this particular project.
Unfortunately though, you'll also have to push a lot more than 400whp to be the fastest camry in american or north america, so better shoot for a couple hundred whp higher while you're at it
as for nitrous...nitrous is for the dragstrip mostly, and gets no respect for how "fast" a car really is on the street (unless you're trying to burn those ricer civics out there on the highway) or on a real track. so unless you're already pushing 500whp without nitrous, real tuners will only look at using nitrous as a cheap man's way to temporary power. my 2cents
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i try not to ask to many questions, and to do all the researhc myself, but i cannot, for the life of me, figure out what tranny to get! I'm going from auto to manual in a 94 5s-fe. I think the e153 and maybe the s53 or 54...but i want to know before i get it and not have to deal with taking the car apart and then finding out that its not a good fit. So what tranny should i get.
Keep in mind, the car is at the begining of a 3(ish) year project (limited only by my funds). I'm going for around 400 hp so the tranny needs to be able to handle that.
Heres a list of what im gonna end up doing
5sfe --> 5sgte (3sge head swap and 3sgte exhaust manifold)
t3/t4 turbo charger
3" exhaust (custom straight pipe)
Tranny swap (why i need you guys)
Forged internals
possibly NOs
Racing Suspension
Its gonna cost money and time i know, but i might have the fastest gen3 camry in america when im through
dont go for the S53/4 simply because of the gear ratios. their way too short. i've owned a 95 Cam DX 5spd (S53?) and my dad has a 90 Celica GTS (S54) and both are geared for no better then 120ish mph. i dont know much about the e153 other then it was on the solara v6. if you could find one the E53 should be pretty good. just my 2 cents
You obviously don't have a good idea as to how much it'll cost to do such a counterproductive hybrid set up. Even the 3sgte (yes, certain people will probably reem me for this) swap is counterproductive.
The 5sfe to 3sgte swap may be easier and cheaper on the Celica, but on the Camry, you have to go the extra mile to get the engine in and tuned. Right off the bat, you're going to pay $3,000 for the motor and +$2000 for the AEM EMS and harness. From there, you have to make custom mounts and various other things to make that swap work. Plus, you're going to pay a lot in labor. We've seen an a couple members drop at least $8,000 turn-key. With $8,000, you can easily run a set up like manny's 5sfte from 6gc, which puts outs almost the same as a GT4.
I'll tell you now, rethink your plan because its obviously all talk, come up with a list of parts and prices and work from there.
if ya did decide to go with s54...ecale3 has one with almost all the parts he tryin to off load for pertty cheap.
megamac83 had tried a 5s-gte hybrid and couldnt do it because the cooling channels(forgot the technical term) in the gte head didnt line up with the block. but he has a 97 5s, im not sure if theres a differance between the 5 s in the gen3 and gen4 in reguards to that.
I was told the same thing by Justin before about getting head gaskets. I was told the heads were direct fitments but the coolant passages on the gasket didn't line up so I couldn't go with it. So, machine work must be done before they bolt up
so the mr2 turbo e153 tranny will work the same as a solara or camry v6 trans????
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U wont see any musscle car on Nos, because they are CARS.
Wrong, I've seen plenty of muscle cars, big block, and small block alike with NOS. I've seen them spray everything from 75 to 150 shot and more. Muscle car drivers may not use the bottle as often, but hey do have them.
Watch Pinks on the speed channel, and see for yourself.
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