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215 is the widest you can go.. at least that is what i told by the people at 2 different american's tire co and big o tire..
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Reason being the wider tires don't seat properly on the narrower rims, the rims are designed to work best with a specific size tire. Under heavy cornering, acceleration and braking, that weaker bond can break. We actually had a customer come in last year who had us put 235's on 215 rim's, we made a waiver for him to sign saying we were not at fault if they did indeed fail. A week and half laster he came back with a laywer, we showed his layer the signed waiver negating his claims that he hadn't been warned of the dangers. If your going to go up from 205's to say 210's yeah that will work ok under normal driving conditions but once you get past that *10 difference you get an unsafe bead seat.
actually 225/60/15 is the ideal perfect oem rim upgrade in terms of tire size. Check out tire specs from Michelin or Dunop, and you'll see that the allowable range of rim widths for the size 225/60/15 is 6.0 to 7.5.
Our camrys are 15x6, so it'd be the MAX size you can go.
For reference, I've seen civics go with 195/60/14, and the min rim width that tire can safely fit on is a 5.5. Civics come on 14x5 standard. THAT'S unsafe.
actually 225/60/15 is the ideal perfect oem rim upgrade in terms of tire size. Check out tire specs from Michelin or Dunop, and you'll see that the allowable range of rim widths for the size 225/60/15 is 6.0 to 7.5.
Our camrys are 15x6, so it'd be the MAX size you can go.
For reference, I've seen civics go with 195/60/14, and the min rim width that tire can safely fit on is a 5.5. Civics come on 14x5 standard. THAT'S unsafe.
most, if not all tire shop wont put 225 on a stock 15 toyota camry rim... before i got my tires, i asked the shop i went to see what the widest i could go. and all of them was coming up with 215 60 15.. if you can prove me wrong on that then i will take my word back.. but untill then that is what i've experinced with and that is what imma stick with..
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Originally Posted by Tony the Tiger
The Camry is a car that I can rip out someone's pride, stab it, beat it, and completely bash their egos, and it's so ridiculous that the person comes back with a hysterical laugh... ROFL They got trainlengthed by a Camry that in their mind, was a 18 sec car.
actually 225/60/15 is the ideal perfect oem rim upgrade in terms of tire size. Check out tire specs from Michelin or Dunop, and you'll see that the allowable range of rim widths for the size 225/60/15 is 6.0 to 7.5.
Our camrys are 15x6, so it'd be the MAX size you can go.
For reference, I've seen civics go with 195/60/14, and the min rim width that tire can safely fit on is a 5.5. Civics come on 14x5 standard. THAT'S unsafe.
Speaking from personal experience with tire installs for over a year and a half, I would NEVER EVER go that much over the factory size. If only for safety, if you really want that much larger tires, then you'd more often then not be better off getting larger/wider rims.
So is it also unsafe to go with a narrower tire? I ask because all of the VW/Audi guys seem to have stretched tires. I personally can't stand the look of stretched tires though.
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It is only unsafe to go narrower if the load carrying capacity of the tire is lower than the vehicle weight on that corner of the car. This may be an issue with trucks, but not modern passenger cars that have way oversize tires for the weight from the factory.
Heavy Mercedes sedans used to come with 185R14's, for example.
215/60 seems like a reasonable oversize for the Camry, since the rolling diameter should be close to stock and the tire industry approves the stock rim width for that size.
Edit: 225/60, if it will fit inside the fenders and not hit the struts, has a diameter the same as stock and is approved for 6-8 inch rims.
There is really nothing narrower that is commonly available and still keep the stock rolling diameter, important for speedometer calibration, anti-lock brakes, transmission shift points, etc.
195/70R15 is only available in truck tires, but is approved for 5.0-6.0 rims.
165/80R15 is the old VW size that is extremely rare and is for 4.0-5.5 rims.
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Wider tires on the stock rim.
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