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Old 12-14-2008, 12:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation extremely bad engine vibration

im in the process of replacing the control arm so the car can be driven. but when i started the car up to move it, it vibrated extremely badly, like the whole car was vibrating. im thinking that when the car bounced during my wreck i broke an engine mount (5sfe engine btw). seem possible?
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What was the idle RPM, around 700?
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yeah 700-800ish
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How bad is the damage? Any subframe damage?

Take a closer look to see if any part of the drivetrain is contacting with the frame or body.

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no subframe damage up front. all the damage is in the back. front control arm and strut rod is bent on the right rear. but when I hit the ditch, the car bounced, and I mean a good hieght too. so I think that when it landed again the landing jarred a mount and broke it. not sure how strong they are on a 14 year old car. and then again it just be how it was sitting, with those 2 rods bent.
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Other then taking a closer look at the mounts, there isn't any way to know. Have you look at the dog bone mount, if the insulating rubber is torn or if it is not parallel to the engine where it sits, there is a good chance that the drivetrain has shifted, and either the subframe is bent or the mounts are twisted/shifted.

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i know the engine has shifted. i can tell. which means that the tranny has shifted, so im sure the drivetrain has shifted. the dogbone mount is slightly off where it used to be, but the mounts being slightly off cause all that vibration?

anyway, the car has to go to the body shop cuz i just found out the strut rod is bent as well. so basically im SOL'ed for about another week or 2. so i can have them take a look at the mounts as well. might just have them go ahead and replace them. is there any harm in having just the rubber torn? i know the metal part of the mounts keeps the engine from bouncing up and out of the car, but does the rubber just keep it from vibrating really badly?
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When the alignment of the drive train is off, there would be a very good chance that part of it is coming in contact with the frame and body where it shouldn't be, when that happens it will transmit any unwanted vibration through the body.

May not make much difference operation wise, but you will definitely feel the vibration.

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no, as far as performance goes, without actually being able to drive it, it seems normal. starts right up. voltage and everything is good. no oil or coolant leak. power seems about the same, again this i cannot say for sure cuz i cannot drive it, but it has the same feel to it. just the vibration. but in time i will look at it, after the control arm and strut rod is replaced.

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no, as far as performance goes, without actually being able to drive it, it seems normal. starts right up. voltage and everything is good. no oil or coolant leak. power seems about the same, again this i cannot say for sure cuz i cannot drive it, but it has the same feel to it. just the vibration. but in time i will look at it, after the control arm and strut rod is replaced.

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start the engine and place your hand on the valve cover. Is the engine shaking under your hand? or is the vibration more like a resonance through the car body? If the engine is shaking, check for all cylinders firing. Is the exhaust pipe kinked or restricted? If it was a hard crash, your catalytic converter may have shattered internally and the catalyst inside may be blocking the exhaust. If the engine seems fairly smooth, but it is shifted in the frame, it is probably wedged tight in the rubber mounts causing no room for the rubber to absorb the vibration, just transmitting right through to the frame. Good luck!
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well i have looked it over. the front, side and rear mount is broken. the bushings on the dogbone are gone. the whole engine and drivetrain has shifted. there is a miss on cylinder 4. the halfshaft or something is grinding against the body. there is a leak on the exhaust.
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