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t3chnique · 03-31-2009, 10:10 AM

Anyone here ever brought these before? Are they any good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

***Eye8Pussies*** · 03-31-2009, 11:04 AM

those are coilover sleeves, not actual coilovers

'_' · 03-31-2009, 11:19 AM

A member is selling something similar:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t288702.html

But yeah, been discussed before.

t3chnique · 03-31-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eye8Pussies

those are coilover sleeves, not actual coilovers

so these need shocks to go with them then.

you think these sleeves are any good?

bigbird · 03-31-2009, 04:43 PM

one member is selling his set in the forsale section. he seemed to like them.

t3chnique · 03-31-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbird

one member is selling his set in the forsale section. he seemed to like them.

From what I saw, those were ground controls...

These should be just as good right?

***Eye8Pussies*** · 03-31-2009, 11:19 PM

maybe. but probably not.

ground-control is one of the better names.

Gibson99 · 04-01-2009, 12:01 PM

I'm biased since i'm the one selling the ground controls, but i do like them. only reason i'm selling is because the camry is the family wagon, and the miata is the race car... and the ground controls are too stiff for having an infant in the car - i don't want to risk giving the kid shaken baby syndrome! Since the baby won't ever be in the miata (not till it's at least big enough for a booster seat, and maybe even later than that) i will keep the hard suspension stuff limited to just the miata.

ground control coilover sleeves use Eibach springs which are some of the best springs money can buy - they even have a million mile warranty. who knows what the ebay sleeves you saw use for springs, but for under $100 i'm pretty sure they aren't eibach!

but yes, no matter what kind of coilover sleeve you get, you really should get some upgraded struts because the higher spring rate of the upgraded springs will kill stock struts in no time, especially if you go really low with the adjustable perches.

t3chnique · 04-01-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibson99

I'm biased since i'm the one selling the ground controls, but i do like them. only reason i'm selling is because the camry is the family wagon, and the miata is the race car... and the ground controls are too stiff for having an infant in the car - i don't want to risk giving the kid shaken baby syndrome! Since the baby won't ever be in the miata (not till it's at least big enough for a booster seat, and maybe even later than that) i will keep the hard suspension stuff limited to just the miata.

ground control coilover sleeves use Eibach springs which are some of the best springs money can buy - they even have a million mile warranty. who knows what the ebay sleeves you saw use for springs, but for under $100 i'm pretty sure they aren't eibach!

but yes, no matter what kind of coilover sleeve you get, you really should get some upgraded struts because the higher spring rate of the upgraded springs will kill stock struts in no time, especially if you go really low with the adjustable perches.

yes Im planning to get KYB shocks if I decide to go with this setup because Im planning to go pretty low.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 04-01-2009, 05:39 PM

if you're planning to go low, then go with tokicos. the kybs only hold up to mild drops 1-1.5" drops or so. beyond that, they aren't stiff enough to keep you from bottoming out, and given time, they will blow and leak

t3chnique · 04-01-2009, 07:57 PM

^^ ok thanks for that info. I was going to get KYBs because they are $100 less. Guess I gotta get Tokicos now.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 04-01-2009, 08:19 PM

yeah...better safe than sorry when it comes to slamming your car

a lot of ppl with lower drops have complained about their kybs blowing in a year or two. I rode on my kybs for a good 5 years before I traded them away (still in great condition) because they were just paired with eibach springs - 1"-1.5" drop

t3chnique · 04-02-2009, 12:53 AM

^^ thanks dude.
youve been by far the most helpful one.

JCamry94 · 04-02-2009, 03:06 PM

Technique, the only thing I hope you won't be expecting is coilover like handling.

And just because they are said to be stiff doesn't mean you can now take a corner 50 mph faster.

Just be wary with these guys on

t3chnique · 04-02-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JCamry94

Technique, the only thing I hope you won't be expecting is coilover like handling.

And just because they are said to be stiff doesn't mean you can now take a corner 50 mph faster.

Just be wary with these guys on

you mean it wont handle like some expensive coilovers right?
I mean 50 is pushing it, Id expect them to be a bit stiff at least.....