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500KCamry · 04-26-2009, 03:03 AM

I have a 95LE with a 5S-FE that is finally sick at 530K.

I found a 93LE four cylinder and was wondering if it would swap without problem.

Anyone have any info on this?

Thanks in advance.

Adding this ...

I know both the 93 and 95 are the same generation, also know that they made some minor changes 94 to 95 with respect to the body and lights, was wondering if any changes to the 5S-FE were made.

500KCamry · 04-26-2009, 11:28 AM

Hey ... so I guess I can assume the swap would be okay?

The 93 5FSE will swap for the 95 5SFE without harness, sensor, transmission, ECU, problems?

Was looking to buy the 93 today.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 04-26-2009, 12:03 PM

basically, yes, the 93 and 95 blocks should be the same. they didn't switch to obdII until 96, so the sensors should all be the same.

worse come to worse, you should be able to swap the engine harness over and it should work

500KCamry · 04-27-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eye8Pussies

basically, yes, the 93 and 95 blocks should be the same. they didn't switch to obdII until 96, so the sensors should all be the same.

worse come to worse, you should be able to swap the engine harness over and it should work

Thanks for the reply. I forgot about the obdII change in 96.

Anyhow, bought the 93 for a parts car, will try the engine swap this weekend.

Think it will be easier to pull the engine a tranny as one and replace as one. Here's hoping.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 04-27-2009, 05:59 PM

yup- that it is...I always just pull everything out at once.saves trouble most of the time

500KCamry · 04-29-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Eye8Pussies

yup- that it is...I always just pull everything out at once.saves trouble most of the time

Thanks for the confirmation.

JCamry94 · 04-29-2009, 01:56 AM

That's like 330k miles! I hope my cam lasts that long

500KCamry · 05-04-2009, 01:35 PM

A couple more questions re: the motor/tranny swap.

I pulled both engines on the weekend and am getting ready to reinstall the 93 I4 back into the 95 car. I have two questions, one relevent now, and the other for next time ...

1. The only differece between the two engines seems to be the exhaust manifold. On the 93 there is only one O2 sensor, on the 95 I4 there are two. Since the 93 I4 is going into the 95 car and 95 wiring harness, should I move the exhaust manifold from the defunct 95 engine to the 93?

2. The wiring harness was more work then I thought. In order to extract the wiring harness from both cars, I had to remove the valve cover, the intake manifold brace and the EGP pipe inorder to give the bulky harness the clearance need to to get it clear of the engine and pulled to the right side of the car. My question that I didn't investigate: On the firewall on the right top where the harness enters the car, what's on the other side? Is there a connector that can be disconnected so the harness can come with engine? Just wondering?

Thank for your help/comments.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 05-04-2009, 08:29 PM

I would personally remove the exhaust manifold as well and swap that over since you'll have two sensors to plug in on the 95 harness....

as for your second question...yes, that is actually the best way to do it. On the other side of the firewall is your ecu/ecm, and it's simplest to disconnect the harness from there, pull it into the engine bay and then pull everything out together like that

500KCamry · 05-04-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eye8Pussies

I would personally remove the exhaust manifold as well and swap that over since you'll have two sensors to plug in on the 95 harness....

as for your second question...yes, that is actually the best way to do it. On the other side of the firewall is your ecu/ecm, and it's simplest to disconnect the harness from there, pull it into the engine bay and then pull everything out together like that

Thanks for the info

I should have posted before I did it as your harness direction would have saved me some hours

***Eye8Pussies*** · 05-05-2009, 02:57 AM

^ lol

yah...that it would have for sure...

keep it in mind for next time!

500KCamry · 05-12-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 500KCamry

A couple more questions re: the motor/tranny swap.

I pulled both engines on the weekend and am getting ready to reinstall the 93 I4 back into the 95 car. I have two questions, one relevent now, and the other for next time ...

1. The only differece between the two engines seems to be the exhaust manifold. On the 93 there is only one O2 sensor, on the 95 I4 there are two. Since the 93 I4 is going into the 95 car and 95 wiring harness, should I move the exhaust manifold from the defunct 95 engine to the 93?

2. The wiring harness was more work then I thought. In order to extract the wiring harness from both cars, I had to remove the valve cover, the intake manifold brace and the EGP pipe inorder to give the bulky harness the clearance need to to get it clear of the engine and pulled to the right side of the car. My question that I didn't investigate: On the firewall on the right top where the harness enters the car, what's on the other side? Is there a connector that can be disconnected so the harness can come with engine? Just wondering?

Thank for your help/comments.

Two more things I found after I put the 93 I4 and tranny into the 95 and 95 wiring harness, the transmission and starter electrical connections are different.

On the the 93 tranny the wide connector by the shifter is narrower than the 95, and on the 93 tranny there is a connector on the opposite side of the tranny that the 95 does't have. I think on the 95 they must have made an internal wiring change to eliminate the connector on the opposite side and added it to the wider connector by the shift linkage ... this is my best guess.

Also the single pin connector on the starter solenoid is different.

I solved these two by pulling the 93 I4 and tranny, and replacing my 95 tranny onto the 93 I4, then reinstalling the 93 I4/95 tranny unit This fixed both electrical connector differences ... and seemed easier than me making the harness wiring changes by splicing the 93 trannny connections into the 95 harness.

Live and learn ... hope the damn thing works when I'm done.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 05-12-2009, 12:29 AM

^ lol

that sounds exactly like what I would have done

except that I probably would have done the 93 motor+tranny from the very beginning to make things easier in the first place

I'll cross my fingers for you too!

500KCamry · 05-17-2009, 12:35 AM

Finally had time to work on the car. Got the 95 tranny married to the 93 I4 and dropped into the 95 LE and harness.

Started it, ran rough - rev then almost die, rev then alsmost die, etc. Found I missed a vac line to the MAP sensor, fixed it and it runs great.

Test drive - seems like the tranny holds off on shifting, like the shift RPM's are different than before. If I accelerate normally (not rapidly), it holds off shifting and will shift somewhere above 3K rpm, but if I let off the accelerator slightly anytime it will shift right away.

Checked the tranny fluid, may have overfilled by 1/2 liter or so. Will drain when I have time - would this make a difference?

Cable linkages seem right, car only starts in park and neutral.

Have to lookup code resetting - for some reason the ABS and Airbag warning lights are on - anyone know why this would be?

Major battle over it seems