1994 camry, what mods are easy and whart mods can the stock engine/trans handle?

[94camry2.2TAL]

what can this car handle and what is practical?

[94camry2.2TAL]

its a 4cyl auto, so i know that if i want max results then ill hv to get the 6 cyl manual, but i just want a little project, its my first time... im a mod virgin, lol
but in all seriousness this is just a project for a 17 yr old kid and his friends, lol

[Simpler=Better]

Cold air intake will give you no gain at all
k&n filter will give you no gain at all

tricking the ecu for a richer mix will give you more power(3hp) for a short period of time, until the ecu corrects itself

a straight pipe may get you 5hp, but only under wide open throttle

Lightweighting(removing anything unessential) will give you the biggest gain.

[8ac1v1c]

Originally Posted by Simpler=Better

Cold air intake will give you no gain at all
k&n filter will give you no gain at all

tricking the ecu for a richer mix will give you more power(3hp) for a short period of time, until the ecu corrects itself

a straight pipe may get you 5hp, but only under wide open throttle

Lightweighting(removing anything unessential) will give you the biggest gain.

What!?!
Sorry man, but I have to question the validity of this.

You're saying is that the fundamental power enhancers do not provide any gains - while actually, REMOVING non-mechanical parts will. (?)


Simple, modest gains can be achieved by increasing the air/fuel in combustion.
Cold Air is dense - the more dense air mixed with the right amount of fuel will prove gains
The faster you get the air/fuel in - you also need to get it out. A proper high-flow exhaust will do the trick.

These are your basic tuning additions. And after the $500 - 1000 you spent on them - you probably have gained about 8hp.

That being said - the less weight you have to haul - the better. However - there's not much you can really strip off a Camry


When all is said and done - just remember it's your car and the last say is your choice.

[carsrus]

Originally Posted by 8ac1v1c

What!?!
Sorry man, but I have to question the validity of this.

You're saying is that the fundamental power enhancers do not provide any gains - while actually, REMOVING non-mechanical parts will. (?)


Simple, modest gains can be achieved by increasing the air/fuel in combustion.
Cold Air is dense - the more dense air mixed with the right amount of fuel will prove gains
The faster you get the air/fuel in - you also need to get it out. A proper high-flow exhaust will do the trick.

These are your basic tuning additions. And after the $500 - 1000 you spent on them - you probably have gained about 8hp.

That being said - the less weight you have to haul - the better. However - there's not much you can really strip off a Camry


When all is said and done - just remember it's your car and the last say is your choice.

Ehhh your sorta right, sorta wrong.

Basically any stock intake is cold and free flowing. The one on the camry gets the air from under the wheel well, cant get to much colder then that.
A CAI will only give you sound basically.

The stock exhaust is pretty free flowing too.

Just think about it, why would toyota or any other car manufacture put on parts that essential rob fuel mileage and performance?

Now if were talking turbo... its a whole diff story

[Tom 2000]

There's cams availabe from a non-turbo MR2, which uses the same engine. However, it's not cheap.

http://www.mr2.com/forums/na-5s-fe-3...5sfe-cams.html

Think about how much money you want to spend.

There's really not a whole lot out there for the 5S-FE. With this engine, you'll get more noise than any real power with intake/exhaust mods.

If you want to make this car fun to drive, your money and efforts are better spent on the suspension/tires. There's a a lot of possibilities for tires/wheels. You can change struts, change springs to lower the car, etc...

Acceleration is only part of the picture. Your car also needs to handle and brake well to be enjoyable.

[JCamry94]

Originally Posted by carsrus

Ehhh your sorta right, sorta wrong.

Basically any stock intake is cold and free flowing. The one on the camry gets the air from under the wheel well, cant get to much colder then that.
A CAI will only give you sound basically.

The stock exhaust is pretty free flowing too.

Just think about it, why would toyota or any other car manufacture put on parts that essential rob fuel mileage and performance?

Now if were talking turbo... its a whole diff story

The one gets air from under the wheel well? No, it gets it from behind the headlight, which is a good design, but a CAI will show a small amount better gain.

The stock exhaust isn't very free flowing, and the head is HORRIBLE at flowing!

And of course any car manufacturer would love to maximize all of these things but the design in the head of the 5s-fe is terrible for performance, as are the cams.

[8ac1v1c]

Bottom line - Cams and turbos for this motor is not practical - simply because you can drop a V6 for the dame price with less the headaches of FI

Not to stray from the OP's inquiry;
Throw in a CAI, highfow exhaust system, performance tune-up, lower it PROPERLY (forget about adjustable coilovers or cutting springs) and upper and lower braces.

Rule number 1 - Do it right the FIRST time. This hobby is expensive as it is - theres no point going the cheap route "for now" just to spend more money to do it "the right way" later.

[JCamry94]

Originally Posted by 8ac1v1c

Bottom line - Cams and turbos for this motor is not practical - simply because you can drop a V6 for the dame price with less the headaches of FI

Not to stray from the OP's inquiry;
Throw in a CAI, highfow exhaust system, performance tune-up, lower it PROPERLY (forget about adjustable coilovers or cutting springs) and upper and lower braces.

Rule number 1 - Do it right the FIRST time. This hobby is expensive as it is - theres no point going the cheap route "for now" just to spend more money to do it "the right way" later.

Boo. I hope I can go FI with this motor so I can blow away v6's at least by a small margin!

But I agree with pretty much everything said here

[Luckynumber5]

LoL, sorry guys but a basic turbo setup on a 5s-fe will barely make it as fast as a v6.

[n3rdifed]

do we need another thread like this? -_-

[JCamry94]

Originally Posted by n3rdifed

do we need another thread like this? -_-

[bigbird]

you best friend will be the search function. but in short, keep yours to minimal engine mods(intake, exhaust) and spend more time on suspension. youll likely tire of that particular model and its limits and will likely seek another model or another more potent car all together. sorry for being negative about it but the 2.2 auto is about as bad as the options gets and ALOT of money has to be spent to make any substantial gains.

[94camry2.2TAL]

tru tru, well i mean i bought the car for 1600 last year as my first car and im just bored with it, i was gunna buy a SHHHH, nissa 240sx, but this is a toyota forum so ill shut up, lol, but i just want something that can atleast burnrubber, i mean my whole 120 horsepower is just... well boring

[bigbird]

Originally Posted by 94camry2.2TAL

tru tru, well i mean i bought the car for 1600 last year as my first car and im just bored with it, i was gunna buy a SHHHH, nissa 240sx, but this is a toyota forum so ill shut up, lol, but i just want something that can atleast burnrubber, i mean my whole 120 horsepower is just... well boring

one thing the majority of us have come to accept is that our cars are by no means performance platforms. even the fast camrys are....well not that fast. with the exception of a few. even then they are still a camry. personally id suggest keeping the camry stock and healthy and get another car for a project....say maby a 240 sx.