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Old 05-27-2009, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lowering Kit Help

Hey guys,

I'd like to lower my car, but I have no idea where to begin. I don't know what Kit to buy, and from what make, and approximately how much I should spend on buying the kit plus paying for the labour/install.

I called my local Performance store, and they said I'd have to pay $417.99 for a B&G make kit, it would lower my car by 1.4 Inches. Or a Goldline make kit, which is $421.99 and it would lower my car by 1.6 Inches.

I also looked on eBay and found and these 4 kits:

Megan Racing Lowering Springs
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Toyota-97-98-99-00-01-Camry-Megan-Lowering-Coil-Springs_W0QQitemZ220414398798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMo tors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3351b8d1 4e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2 |65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A5 0

Tein S.Tech Lowering Springs

http://cgi.ebay.ca/TEIN-S-Tech-Lowering-Spring-Toyota-Camry-97-98-99-00-01_W0QQitemZ260254569798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3c98619546&_t rksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Springtech Lowering Springs
http://cgi.ebay.ca/LOWERING-SPRINGS-DROP-KIT-Camry-92-03-02-01-00-99-98_W0QQitemZ230248926157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item359be7cbcd&_t rksid=p3286.m20.l1116

CM Canuck Motorsport Lowering Springs
http://cgi.ebay.ca/CM-Lowering-Spring-TOYOTA-CAMRY-97-01-00-99-98-drop-kit_W0QQitemZ170189920947QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27a01c1ab3&_ trksid=p3286.m20.l1116


I dont know what to buy, and what to do, so can anyone please please help?
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TEINs are your best choice outta those. Id STAY AWAY FROM SPRINGTECH & CM Canuck Motorsport Lowering Springs.

Quality springs are no more than $200 (around). Stick to brands like Eibach, TEIN, etc.

Install should cost no more than $100.

The shop is raping you with those prices.
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don't forget struts as well...
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for the most part with these cars...the lower the drop, the lower the spring rate(stiffness) and quality. figure out how low ya want to go and if ya want an even drop or a "raked" drop. figure out your budget and definatly include shocks in that number. struts are not requiered but are HIGHLY recommended for both you and your cars sake.
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TEINs are your best choice outta those. Id STAY AWAY FROM SPRINGTECH & CM Canuck Motorsport Lowering Springs.

Quality springs are no more than $200 (around). Stick to brands like Eibach, TEIN, etc.

Install should cost no more than $100.

The shop is raping you with those prices.
K thxs a lot t3chnique....the TEIN's listed on eBay are they a good buy for my Toyota Camry 2000 4 CYL?

And when I spoke to the shop near my house....they said the ideal drop for my car i should do is 1.5 inches....that I shouldn't go lower than that....do you guys think thats right?

Also.....struts? what are those....and are they essential?
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aftermarket shocks will make the most of the stiffer springs, reduce bouncing or floating, and most importantly...reduce premature ware on both the OEM shocks and expensive aftermarket springs. plus its MUCH easier to mount. instead of having to remove the stock spring/shock, remove the spring from the shock, place the new spring on and then remount them(makin it sound easier then it is). all you do is place the aftermarket spring on the aftermarket shock and swap that out with your OEM stuff. PLUS you have a full OEM spring/shock setup that you can keep for when ya get rid of the car for whatever reason.
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You should research all this before you buy anything. Be sure to have the shop install both the springs and the struts at the same time. The Tein S-Tech's will provide a greater drop (raked maybe) than the Eibach's (even). As far as struts, I'd go with either Tokico (stiffer) or KYB's (softer).
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aftermarket shocks will make the most of the stiffer springs, reduce bouncing or floating, and most importantly...reduce premature ware on both the OEM shocks and expensive aftermarket springs. plus its MUCH easier to mount. instead of having to remove the stock spring/shock, remove the spring from the shock, place the new spring on and then remount them(makin it sound easier then it is). all you do is place the aftermarket spring on the aftermarket shock and swap that out with your OEM stuff. PLUS you have a full OEM spring/shock setup that you can keep for when ya get rid of the car for whatever reason.
Well I know the shocks that I have now I had replaced all 4 of them last year....they are KYB shocks....don't know if that makes a difference or not?

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You should research all this before you buy anything. Be sure to have the shop install both the springs and the struts at the same time. The Tein S-Tech's will provide a greater drop (raked maybe) than the Eibach's (even). As far as struts, I'd go with either Tokico (stiffer) or KYB's (softer).
For the drop.....what do you mean between 'raked' and 'even'? Like the look i'm looking for is to have the body of my car drop down, but not below the top line of my tires. Like i don't want the body of my car to look like its hangin lower then my tires ... you know what i mean?
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a raked drop is uneven. lower in the front then in the back. done for a more aggressive stance and to even out the fender gap. but its personal preferance which looks better.

because you rescently replace the shocks thats EVEN more reason to replace them with aftermarket(stiffer) shocks. i wouldnt want all that money i just dropped on them to be thrown away by waring them out prematurely.

however, are they KYB GR2's? thoes are slightly stiffer then stock and would be fine to use. KYB also makes OEM spec ones which i wouldnt use. personally id want tokicos but they are a performance strut and are fairly stiff, but the best for aftermarket springs.
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^^beat me to it. But yeah, even drop means the same drop between the top of the tire and fender. It will be the same all around. Raked is when the front gap is less than the rear gap. I think Tein listed the S-Tech's as 1.5" drop in the front, and .5" or so in the rear. You should double check the numbers on their site though. Eibach pro-kit is 1.2" all around. If you want comfort, go with KYB GR-2 (I have these right now). For stiffer ride, get the Tokico's (I wish I had gotten these in the first place).
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OK, i want a more of a drop in the back, since i have no weight the back.
I'm looking for struts at least only because my are worn.
thinking about cutting the stock springs though ha ha
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^^ Why would you want to go from a comfortable ride (KYB GR-2) to a more a stiffer ride (Tokico's) though? I don't get it? I'd prefer having a laid back comfy ride lol

Also ... when I look at my car right now....the back end seems like it's a lot lower than the front end? I don't know why, i think it could be because I have 2 10" subs in the back maybe?

If that's the case, would raked be better, so the front would be even with the back since it's already a bit lower cause of my sound system?
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^^ Why would you want to go from a comfortable ride (KYB GR-2) to a more a stiffer ride (Tokico's) though? I don't get it? I'd prefer having a laid back comfy ride lol
I hate soft, floaty, bouncy, comfortable suspensions. If I had my choice, I'd go with coilovers. But as of right now, Tokico's would most likely be replacements once my current struts are done. I'm looking for performance, not comfort.
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OK, i want a more of a drop in the back, since i have no weight the back.
I'm looking for struts at least only because my are worn.
thinking about cutting the stock springs though ha ha
Naw man, just wait until you can lower it the right way. BTW, I should be getting wheels swapped out tomorrow so the Konigs will be ready for you by Friday. They've been cleaned and shined .
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I hate soft, floaty, bouncy, comfortable suspensions. If I had my choice, I'd go with coilovers. But as of right now, Tokico's would most likely be replacements once my current struts are done. I'm looking for performance, not comfort.

lol wow totally forgot about performance....didn't even realize that haha

Ok then, so far this is what I need to get then right?:

-Tein S.Tech Lowering Springs

-Tokico's Struts

That plus a 'raked' drop since I have a sound system in the back and it makes my back end (seem) lower?

Also i was looking for the "Tokico" struts and I found these on eBay, but there MADDD expensive! What do you think?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Toyota-97-00-98-99-Camry-Tokico-HP-Shocks-Struts-Set_W0QQitemZ370201077359QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5631b4266f#e bayphotohosting


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One last thing ... let's say I don't buy the struts. And i just get the lowering kit and put them onto my current KYB shocks....is that bad idea? Like if i don't feel like putting that much money into new shocks when I had mine replaced just last summer?

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