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Ok, long time ago I purchased some amps, now I need to install them but I don't have the money, plus I want to run the cables and install the amps, so basically I need somebody to tell me the wires that I need tu run and after I do my thing he can come and hook them up. This is not a big system
Just 250W 6x9's
200 W 6 1/2's
Two tweeters and one little bazooka.
My first question is: Does anybody know somebody cheap in the LA area with the knowledge to help me with this ??
Second will be, if somebody with the KNOWLEDGE can help me here with a the size of the wires needed and may be a little diagram for the install ????
Headunit:
Alpine 9870
RMS Power output: 16 w
Peak output: 45w
Preamp outputs 2-channels
sub preamp output: NO
Pream voltage 2 volts
Rear speakers:
2 Pioneer 6x9 250w 4ohm
50 W nominal power
Front speakers:
2 Pioneer 6 1/2 200W 4 ohm
30 W nominal power
Front tweeters:
Toyota camry gen4 OEM
Bazooka:(8" Tube woofer)
Kenwood KSC-W800 (New model it's KSC-WA82rc)
200W (70w nominal ?)
Amps:
2 Pioneers GM-X304
Bridgeable 4 ch
30w x 4 .4ohm
70w x 2 .4ohm
If I were there install would be a jiffy, but since im not and it sounds like you don't know much about it, I'd just pay to get it pro installed if you don't have anyone you know wise enough to install it for you. It will save you time and your equipment from frying/car burning down.
No matter what the local "pro" idiots tell you, soldered connections are required if you want to get anything better than the stock radio. Also, don't forget to have an on-battery fuse for the wire running back to the amp(s)
No matter what the local "pro" idiots tell you, soldered connections are required if you want to get anything better than the stock radio. Also, don't forget to have an on-battery fuse for the wire running back to the amp(s)
I'm pretty sure the rear speakers have a factory amp
I would run 1 of your Pioneers GM-X304 at 2 channels for the front 6.5's
and unless you have a crossover network - scrap the tweeters cause it'll sound like a fax machine.
Now you can sell the other Pioneers GM-X304 and the GEN$ OEM Tweets to help cover your install money.
BTW - you need to find an AMP Wiring kit. Nothing heavy. 8gauge should be fine. budget about $20-50 depending on brand.
ESPECIALLY with electrical work - Take everyones advise and get it done professionally.
It would literally take a pro 10 minutes to run the RCA/power wires for the amps - whereas it would take someone else an hour plus broken tabs and clips.
Up here - an install for your set-up would cost anywhere between $200-$400 depending on the shop. But after all is said and done - it sounds wicked - looks clean - and there is no risk of an electrical fire
I can advise you on how to install, but you'll need the wiring anyway... I suggest if you're going to run a couple of amps, you'll want to run 1 x 4 gauge cable from the Pos terminal on the battery to a Y splitter distribution block in the boot where you'll install the amps.
By the looks of things, you have 3 x amps... I would use one of the Pioneer amps to run JUST the rear speakers, bridged... the speakers should be able to handle 70w RMS if the speakers are capable of handling 2 ohms. You'd normally just keep the gain on the amp down lower than usual.
The other amp... well, you don't need 4 channels really. You could either install the amp as it is and just feed the 2 x front channels for the front speakers, or change the amp for a 2 channel one.
The DHD Amp... is that 200w RMS (nominal)? Is it a 2 channel amp or mono? 200w RMS at 2 ohm sounds fine for the amp...
In saying this, that's 3 x amps for a low powered system. In my opinion, I would be trading back the 2 x Pioneer amps and replacing with 1 x higher powered amp... all channels at 70-100w RMS each. This would mean that you'd only have to install 2 x amps... also means that you'd only need to have 1 x 4 gauge power from the battery to the boot, 1 x Y splitter distribution block and either small 4 gauge or 8 gauge cables from the distribution block to the amps. The earth you'd need on the amps I would only use 4 gauge or bigger... you always need to match the Neg cables with the Pos, if not better. Where to earth the amps? Try and find the smallest distance straight to a bare piece of metal that is on the chassis... sometimes you can bolt it straight into a hole.
I'll just tell you now... MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS EARTHED! I can't stress that enough. Yes, you'll also want to solder the wiring directly onto the speakers... and also the Head Unit needs to be soldered to the correct cables.
Another note: Run the power cable down one side of the car (same side as battery, on the right looking at the front of the car), you can pull the floor mats up from the side and go through like that, under the back seat and straight into the boot - awesome.
The RCAs - Run down the left side of the car, same process as the power, just on the other side.
I'll suggest to upgrade the battery terminals... I use a brand called "Stinger" - great stuff. You get extra connections to the terminal for adding the power cable to the amp.
I also ran an extra earth cable from the Neg terminal on my battery straight to the chassis... just in case.
All the other lads on here are right though - this is high powered stuff. If you stuff up one bit - you can not only blow your amps, you can also fry car related parts too. You'll DEFINITELY want to install a 70-80A fuse about 20cm from the Pos on the battery terminal, in case you have any short circuits etc.
I went and did this task on the fact that if you're gonna do the job, you do it right the first time. It's one of those jobs where you don't want to stuff up... this is why you'd normally get a pro to do this. I sometimes question the pros doing this... they're human after all - sometimes I can do a better job :P
Good luck... plan out what you're gonna do, get someone else to help... 2 x sets of eyes are better than one, and they can help you feed the cable through the firewall somehow :P ahahahahahaha!!
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I can advise you on how to install, but you'll need the wiring anyway... I suggest if you're going to run a couple of amps, you'll want to run 1 x 4 gauge cable from the Pos terminal on the battery to a Y splitter distribution block in the boot where you'll install the amps.
By the looks of things, you have 3 x amps... I would use one of the Pioneer amps to run JUST the rear speakers, bridged... the speakers should be able to handle 70w RMS if the speakers are capable of handling 2 ohms. You'd normally just keep the gain on the amp down lower than usual.
The other amp... well, you don't need 4 channels really. You could either install the amp as it is and just feed the 2 x front channels for the front speakers, or change the amp for a 2 channel one.
The DHD Amp... is that 200w RMS (nominal)? Is it a 2 channel amp or mono? 200w RMS at 2 ohm sounds fine for the amp...
In saying this, that's 3 x amps for a low powered system. In my opinion, I would be trading back the 2 x Pioneer amps and replacing with 1 x higher powered amp... all channels at 70-100w RMS each. This would mean that you'd only have to install 2 x amps... also means that you'd only need to have 1 x 4 gauge power from the battery to the boot, 1 x Y splitter distribution block and either small 4 gauge or 8 gauge cables from the distribution block to the amps. The earth you'd need on the amps I would only use 4 gauge or bigger... you always need to match the Neg cables with the Pos, if not better. Where to earth the amps? Try and find the smallest distance straight to a bare piece of metal that is on the chassis... sometimes you can bolt it straight into a hole.
I'll just tell you now... MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS EARTHED! I can't stress that enough. Yes, you'll also want to solder the wiring directly onto the speakers... and also the Head Unit needs to be soldered to the correct cables.
Another note: Run the power cable down one side of the car (same side as battery, on the right looking at the front of the car), you can pull the floor mats up from the side and go through like that, under the back seat and straight into the boot - awesome.
The RCAs - Run down the left side of the car, same process as the power, just on the other side.
I'll suggest to upgrade the battery terminals... I use a brand called "Stinger" - great stuff. You get extra connections to the terminal for adding the power cable to the amp.
I also ran an extra earth cable from the Neg terminal on my battery straight to the chassis... just in case.
All the other lads on here are right though - this is high powered stuff. If you stuff up one bit - you can not only blow your amps, you can also fry car related parts too. You'll DEFINITELY want to install a 70-80A fuse about 20cm from the Pos on the battery terminal, in case you have any short circuits etc.
I went and did this task on the fact that if you're gonna do the job, you do it right the first time. It's one of those jobs where you don't want to stuff up... this is why you'd normally get a pro to do this. I sometimes question the pros doing this... they're human after all - sometimes I can do a better job :P
Good luck... plan out what you're gonna do, get someone else to help... 2 x sets of eyes are better than one, and they can help you feed the cable through the firewall somehow :P ahahahahahaha!!
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