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I replaced the brakes on my 1995 V6 LE Camry with ceramic pads all the way around. The brakes were squealing and Thought that they just needed to wear in, wrong! I scoured the rotors with sand paper to minor success. The left front brake squeals when coming to a stop , annoying as hell. I noticed that on that side I don't have the little V spring clips on the pads. Would that make them squeal that? They weren't there when I changed them from the last time, no squealing.I put disk break quiet on them as well. Any ideas? Could it be the ceramic brake pads?
That might be the problem (Anti-squeal spring) or it could be the shims (plates on the back of the brake pads).
I just changed my wife's brakes and the springs were broken. It is squealing on light braking and added pressure makes it stop which is one of the indications it's the spring.
I just checked a couple of the sites (Autozone, NAPA) and no luck finding the spring. I'm sure they are readily available, just haven't found them on-line.
You can find it on rockauto.com. The later ones do not use the spring and are still quiet with Akebonos. Are the anchor pins sliding properly? What kind of pads are you using?
I replaced the brakes on my 1995 V6 LE Camry with ceramic pads all the way around. The brakes were squealing and Thought that they just needed to wear in, wrong! I scoured the rotors with sand paper to minor success. The left front brake squeals when coming to a stop , annoying as hell. I noticed that on that side I don't have the little V spring clips on the pads. Would that make them squeal that? They weren't there when I changed them from the last time, no squealing.I put disk break quiet on them as well. Any ideas? Could it be the ceramic brake pads?
I just installed the V springs (anti-squeal springs) on my wife's 98 and the squeal still persists. After the brakes heat up, the squeal actually happens when I turn the car slightly to the left or right (primarily the right). Applying the brakes makes it stop, but it begins again if I let up on the brake and have the wheel turned.
TM, I hope you don't mind me sharing the thread, since our issues are so closely related I figure any advice may help either one of us.
Did you guys checked the movement of the anchor pins? They should move fairly freely as you move them, like Fenixus said in another thread, using two fingers. These pins can be a problem on these calipers.
Also, how are the pads wearing? Parallel and evenly?
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I just installed the V springs (anti-squeal springs) on my wife's 98 and the squeal still persists. After the brakes heat up, the squeal actually happens when I turn the car slightly to the left or right (primarily the right). Applying the brakes makes it stop, but it begins again if I let up on the brake and have the wheel turned.
TM, I hope you don't mind me sharing the thread, since our issues are so closely related I figure any advice may help either one of us.
Pulled the pins, cleaned and greased - still have the problem.
It's more of a chirp than a squeal, I'm thinking that maybe one of the clips isn't seated properly or maybe messed up when installing the brakes. The only thing that makes me doubt the clips is the fact that it has to heat up before making the noise.
I took the pads off and checked the clips and the seating of the pads, problem still persists. I then removed the pads and switched the pads (outside pad to inside and inside to outside), but still the problem didn't go away.
I have to drive the car about 15 miles before it starts making the noise. If I am going perfectly straight there is no problem, but the slightest turn of the wheel and it starts to chirp. The problem didn't exist with the previous pads and only started a couple of days after the new pads were installed. The rotors are only about a year old, so I'm guessing that isn't the problem.
I've never had defective pads before, but that is the only thing left that I can think of. I didn't save the receipt, but I'm wondering if Autozone would give me a refund since they are Duralast brakes.
After doing a little reading (Google) I was obviously foolish to buy Duralast pads.
If the pads are wearing evenly then it's probably not your anchor pins. However, a couple of millimeters don't show up until a good amount of the
pads are used up.
If the "new" pads are squealing then it may very well be the pads. There are friction material that squeal more and some less. Did you use shims and apply some brake lube on all contact points?
Anyway, I'd recommend Akebono ProAct ceramics. Toyota supposedly used a cheaper version of the pads, EE friction rated vs FF rated, posted one owner who bought new pads at the dealer. For typical driving these pads should give you the least amount of problems. Get them at rockauto.com, use ToyotaNation 5% discount. I use these pads without noise shims and they're quiet, long lasting, light dusting with good fade resistance. They're by no means performance brakes like Hawk HPS from what I read, but those can squeal if not properly bedded in.
I've never had defective pads before, but that is the only thing left that I can think of. I didn't save the receipt, but I'm wondering if Autozone would give me a refund since they are Duralast brakes.
After doing a little reading (Google) I was obviously foolish to buy Duralast pads.
If the "new" pads are squealing then it may very well be the pads. There are friction material that squeal more and some less. Did you use shims and apply some brake lube on all contact points?
There was a shim already attached to the new pads, I didn't add another shim. No, I didn't add any brake lube.
I used ceramic before and liked how they performed, I might go with a set that you suggested.
I've installed a lot of brakes in the past, both pad and shoes, but never came across a problem like this where the noise didn't start until several miles were driven.
Were these the Duralast semi-metallics, Duralast Gold ceramics or Duralast Gold CMax ceramics? I think only their better lines have shims already on there, at least the pictures show.
I'm sure it's probably the pads too, but was just wondering if a little brake lube on the caliper contact points, including the pad rails, might help these little squealers.
But I guess both the Duralasts have lifetime warranty, and maybe you will be able to return them.
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There was a shim already attached to the new pads, I didn't add another shim. No, I didn't add any brake lube.
I used ceramic before and liked how they performed, I might go with a set that you suggested.
I've installed a lot of brakes in the past, both pad and shoes, but never came across a problem like this where the noise didn't start until several miles were driven.
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