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Got a call from my daughter. The car stopped moving after going around a right corner. Engine fine.
Put it in D and R and the speedometer shows internals are moving (20km/r for D, and 10km/R for R), both wheels on the ground. Raised the LF wheel off the ground and the engine drived the left wheel in both forward and reverse. Raised the RF wheel off the ground and the engine does not move the right wheel. Turned the right wheel by hand and the CV joints and shafts move properly to where the shaft enters the transmission.
To me it seems to indicate something wrong inside the differential.
What do you think is wrong? And can the repair be made without removing the transmission?
I have another tranny I can rob parts from.
Thanks for any help that can be provided.
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95 LE 5SFE 530K km, 530K km changed engine, 549K km second engine died, now 554K Km running with a 98 5SFE block and head
01 XLE V6 310K km
I would think the speedo gear moves with the ring gear. And the left shaft moves would suggest the differential pinion (spider) may still be fine.
My guess is broken or disconnected right axle around the right pinion side gear area inside the case? Not sure if there enough clearance to remove the differential housing without taking the whole thing out even if you have a hoist. Otherwise you may be able to take off the axles, remove the housing, and remove the differential unit. Anyone?
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Originally Posted by 500KCamry
95 LE 4I Automatic.
Got a call from my daughter. The car stopped moving after going around a right corner. Engine fine.
Put it in D and R and the speedometer shows internals are moving (20km/r for D, and 10km/R for R), both wheels on the ground. Raised the LF wheel off the ground and the engine drived the left wheel in both forward and reverse. Raised the RF wheel off the ground and the engine does not move the right wheel. Turned the right wheel by hand and the CV joints and shafts move properly to where the shaft enters the transmission.
To me it seems to indicate something wrong inside the differential.
What do you think is wrong? And can the repair be made without removing the transmission?
Also, how are the engine mounts? You mentioned a right turn and I wonder if the right axle is somehow loosened if the drivetrain shifted left. Just wondering.
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Originally Posted by 500KCamry
95 LE 4I Automatic.
Got a call from my daughter. The car stopped moving after going around a right corner. Engine fine.
Also, how are the engine mounts? You mentioned a right turn and I wonder if the right axle is somehow loosened if the drivetrain shifted left. Just wondering.
Thanks for the reply and info.
She says car was working fine, she braked, turned a right corner onto a street and then the car would not move anymore. No grinding sounds prior to stopping.
I just had a second to take a quick check, but think the motor mounts are fine. When I had the right wheel off the ground I visually verified the axle goes into the transaxle, the inner shaft steady bearing is still captive in its housing, so the axle hasn't moved outwards out of the transaxle. I also turned the right wheel by hand and the CV joints are okay, the axle turns where it goes into the transaxle.
Inside the differential the splined axle engages in some kind of gear that must be driven by the spider gears, Does that gear has some kind of pin that holds it to a shaft that has sheared?
If the steering rack is removed if there is enough clearance to pull the differential gears out?
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85 LE 2SE 500K km - died trying to push a semi off the road
95 LE 5SFE 530K km, 530K km changed engine, 549K km second engine died, now 554K Km running with a 98 5SFE block and head
01 XLE V6 310K km
Does anyone have a picture of the inside of the differential?
Was hoping to check out parts toady before I travel 8 hours north to where the dead car is.
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85 LE 2SE 500K km - died trying to push a semi off the road
95 LE 5SFE 530K km, 530K km changed engine, 549K km second engine died, now 554K Km running with a 98 5SFE block and head
01 XLE V6 310K km
Does anyone have a picture of the inside of the differential?
Was hoping to check out parts toady before I travel 8 hours north to where the dead car is.
I found a picture of the differential on the camrystuff gen 3 mx.pdf file. It kind of looks like the spider gears drive side gears, and the side gears look like one part that internal splines to accept the axles. This is weird, as it would suggest that the axle or gear splines are either not engaged, or stripped smooth. The right axle is not driven, so if its stripped you'd think it would make noise, but it doesn't.
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85 LE 2SE 500K km - died trying to push a semi off the road
95 LE 5SFE 530K km, 530K km changed engine, 549K km second engine died, now 554K Km running with a 98 5SFE block and head
01 XLE V6 310K km
Sounds like the ring gear/differential case is still OK, because the left axle turns and speedo is showing movement. From the diagram it looks like the speedo gear is on the passenger side of the differential case for the Aisin A140, next to bearing #292.
The right drive axle splines into the right side gear, which is in contact with the spider. Looking at gears in assembly #716, since the axle is not un-seated or grinding, my guess would be a broken drive shaft near the side gear inside the differential cover (since you see the right shaft moving all the way into the case).
I don't have access to a 140E, but suspect the bottom of the differential housing may hit the subframe? You need to get, at least, a differential cover gasket #67303B and 2 quarts of Dexron II/III, but hopefully not a new differential but just an intermediate driveshaft.
Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by 500KCamry
I found a picture of the differential on the camrystuff gen 3 mx.pdf file. It kind of looks like the spider gears drive side gears, and the side gears look like one part that internal splines to accept the axles. This is weird, as it would suggest that the axle or gear splines are either not engaged, or stripped smooth. The right axle is not driven, so if its stripped you'd think it would make noise, but it doesn't.
John, thank you for the advice. I think your diagnosis is right. Will check it out tomorrow.
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85 LE 2SE 500K km - died trying to push a semi off the road
95 LE 5SFE 530K km, 530K km changed engine, 549K km second engine died, now 554K Km running with a 98 5SFE block and head
01 XLE V6 310K km
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