Audiophiles HELP

[NotoriousVIC]

So i have a pair of alpine SPX17-Ref i am installing on my front doors

i plan on gettin an alpine cda 9887 or 9886 for my head unit

I need suggestions on what to put on my rear deck. Should i go for a 6x9 (such as the alpine spr 69c) or 6.5. Should i go for midbass drivers or what. I am not so sure about what would do well in the back with these components since i rarely hear the speakesr from the back anyways and i only care about how things sound from the front seets.

Suggestions and why i should use them would help. I am interested more for quality than loudness. dont plan on getting a big amp so need something that can be powered by the head unit. And no subs either (prefer to keep my trunk space)

Good luck

[SexieWASD]

If it were me I would defiantly be going with a mid-bass driver, high mids, and high notes in the back tend to mess with the front sound stage too much for my tastes, and their is no hope for a decent sound stage for back seat passengers anyway. 6"X9" or 6.5" doesn't really matter much as they should be turned down quite a bit anyway, but 6"X9" would be easier to install as long as they don't have tweeters attached.

EDIT: You might want to consider a small two channel amp for your front components, nothing will help them sound better than enough clean power. You could get one pretty cheap used and hide it under the dash, so no room lost either, the rear should be fine running off the head unit though.

[werkit217]

yea i agree with above about the amp. To get the best bang for your buck for a set of good components, add a small amp, you'll mos def be happier with the results, n i speak from experience from installing audio equipment for about 5 years on the side, including 2 cars of my own.

I have to say, since you wont be gettin a sub, or at least dont plan to now , I STRONGLY recommend getting 6X9's in the back. It will provide much more mid bass than a 6.5" speaker, ( it has more surface area for low frequencies).

I personally have Pioneer deck (my personal favorite, though an Alpine is mos def my 2nd choice) MB Quart speakers all around (the ones made in Germany, not the American version of them; 6.5 components in the front, n 6X9 in the back), a single 12" JL W3 sub and a custom built-to-spec closed-air box i made, n 5-channel Kicker amp

[DoZZ]

I just put the alpine spr 69c's in my gen4.
Very happy with them running off my Alpine iXA-W404.
I would love to put the SPX17-Ref's up front but will
probably go with the SPR-17C's. Still need to hook up
my PDX-5, it's all a work in progress.

DoZZ

[whip_cracker]

The rear parcel shelf in my opinion is used for "filling" the back of the car up... it helps, but nothing like the fronts. If you want sound quality and the speakers to feel happy then you'll want an amp that can power them properly

[the94camryman]

if you just want a plain set up that wont sound too bad, i would get a four channel amp to power your speakers. mount it under the passenger seat. and as far as the speakers go, nothing sounds like rockford fosgate's power series speakers. then mount some fosgate tweaters someone. that shouldnt sound too bad. although nothing can clear bass up like a nice subwoofer.

[touringcamry]

If you want a SQ setup and you plan to get a subwoofer, I would forgo the rear speakers and put a single 10 or 12 in a seal enclosure in the trunk along with an amp that will do about 200-300W for the subwoofer.

If you get a 4 channel amp, you may be able to bridge two channels for the sub.

[werkit217]

regardless if you get a sub or not, you should still have rear speakers, neglecting them all together impacts the way you hear music in your car, now i aint sayin you have to get anything spectacular in the rear, but the fact that you have it allows music the surround you...let me put it this way, would you rather watch a WWII aircraft dog fight movie in a 2.1 setup...or a 5.1 with rear channels (and a sub )?

[touringcamry]

Except that the source in this case is only 2 channels and the rears tend to mess up the sound stage.

[DoZZ]

With the the new Alpine decks you have the option of using a little "Black Box"
The IMPRINT Audio Processor PXA-H100.
http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...model=PXA-H100
A custom calibrated sound stage for your particular vehicle.


DoZZ

[NotoriousVIC]

yah i know, i heard some bad reviews on the little black box, or that it just wasnt worth it

I may just forgo the rear speakers and one day put an 10 inch sub back there. Cant quite afford an amp yet thats swhy. Ill install my alpine xs first and see if im lookin for a little more boom

[finfinder]

If you buy good speakers, you need to feed them properly to get your moneys worth, that means a decent amp. You can buy a decent 4 channel amp for a hundred bucks nowadays. You can use the front two channels for your speakers up front and then bridge the two rear channels to power a sub or for rear speakers if you want. A minimum of 50-60 real watts a channel will make your Alpines sound way better than head unit power, not just louder, better. You can't expect a corvette to perform using 87 octane gas. If you try to use just head unit power, you'll probably be disappointed in the result. Its a system that will only sound as good as the weakest link.

You don't have to spend a lot of money, just spend wisely and buy some things used (like amps).

For the components in your doors to really sound their best you need to seal the doors with some Damplifier or any other decent sound deadening material. The sound deadening material will help with controlling vibration and midbass. You gotta remove the door panels anyway.

You'll need a subwoofer. Trust me. You'll be amazed at the difference it makes when you blend it in with your front stage. A single 12 in a 1 cubic foot box will do fine. Go to a decent car stereo shop and listen to speakers with and without a subwoofer and you'll understand very quickly what I mean. You can buy a decent new sub for a hundred bucks too (JBL GTO1214 ). You can get a box off Ebay for about thirty bucks. Cheap.

You don't need rear speakers, lotsa guys use no rear speakers, you can remove them and use the holes to vent the bass from your subwoofer into the cabin.

Much of what you need to know can be found on the car stereo websites.
www.the12volt.com or www.bcae1.com or www.diymobileaudio.com

Spend some time on these sites (read the tutorials on diymobileaudio for a week or two and you'll have a lot better idea of what you can do). Best of all it won't cost you a thing to research this stuff. Research, research, research... then buy !

[SexieWASD]

^ This guy knows what he is talking about.

Someone on here should be able to hook you up with a good custom box for whatever sub you get, fairly cheap too.

[NotoriousVIC]

Originally Posted by finfinder

If you buy good speakers, you need to feed them properly to get your moneys worth, that means a decent amp. You can buy a decent 4 channel amp for a hundred bucks nowadays. You can use the front two channels for your speakers up front and then bridge the two rear channels to power a sub or for rear speakers if you want. A minimum of 50-60 real watts a channel will make your Alpines sound way better than head unit power, not just louder, better. You can't expect a corvette to perform using 87 octane gas. If you try to use just head unit power, you'll probably be disappointed in the result. Its a system that will only sound as good as the weakest link.

You don't have to spend a lot of money, just spend wisely and buy some things used (like amps).

For the components in your doors to really sound their best you need to seal the doors with some Damplifier or any other decent sound deadening material. The sound deadening material will help with controlling vibration and midbass. You gotta remove the door panels anyway.

You'll need a subwoofer. Trust me. You'll be amazed at the difference it makes when you blend it in with your front stage. A single 12 in a 1 cubic foot box will do fine. Go to a decent car stereo shop and listen to speakers with and without a subwoofer and you'll understand very quickly what I mean. You can buy a decent new sub for a hundred bucks too (JBL GTO1214 ). You can get a box off Ebay for about thirty bucks. Cheap.

You don't need rear speakers, lotsa guys use no rear speakers, you can remove them and use the holes to vent the bass from your subwoofer into the cabin.

Much of what you need to know can be found on the car stereo websites.
www.the12volt.com or www.bcae1.com or www.diymobileaudio.com

Spend some time on these sites (read the tutorials on diymobileaudio for a week or two and you'll have a lot better idea of what you can do). Best of all it won't cost you a thing to research this stuff. Research, research, research... then buy !

Whats a good 4 channel for that low? Most I see are a few hundred. I know subs and boxes are cheap, I just like my trunk space unless theres a way to stabilize the rear deck and somehow shove it on there.

[SexieWASD]

If you don't like the idea of installing your own amp, a rear deck sub is not the right path for you to go down.