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subwoofers are the gigantic speakers you always see in cars. they are designed to hit the lowest frequencies possible, and provide the bass you hear in a quality system. mid-bass drivers are designed to hit the lower mid-range, and higher, low-range frequencies. they hit the intermediate frequencies b/w you subs and normal speakers. your normal speakers hit the treble notes you hear. they are not designed to hit the low bass frequencies of a subwoofer, and thats why when you turn the volume up on normal speakers and have the bass up high you get that distortion. tweeters hit the highest frequencies possible. pretty much the complete opposite of a subwoofer.
and just to add a bit of info that you probably already knew, there are some subs that hit lower than others. its still possible to have bass distortion on cheaper subwoofers.
and honestly i have never heard of a sub-bass driver.
maybe someone could enlighten the both of us on what it is.
Wrong, you don't need a mid-bass driver if you don't miss that part of the spectrum, and it is quite small with a decent set of mid-ranges, but you will be lacking a little bit between where your sub rolls off on the high end and when a mid range picks it back up again. That is at least pertaining to car audio, for home audio you can find mid ranges that do quite a bit better.
I haven't heard of a sub-bass driver either, maybe one of those fan looking thing for < 10hz?
It all depends on how into audio you are. If you are an audiophile like I am, then a set of components arent going to work. I dont even buy components. I purchase the sub, the mid-bass, the mid/upper range, and then the tweeters all seperately. It can be quite a bit more money, and require quite a few amplifiers. But it sounds so much better IMO.
lol too hardcore for me, where do you put your tweeters btw (or how many) i was plannign on removing the back speakers and honestly I usually cant hear them but after playing around with my sound and moving all to front and split front-back, I do feel like a TINY bit is missing. High frequencies are more directional from what i remember so should I put sumtin in the back? It is posible that its because my tweeters are still the stock ones (havnt made the switch yet) and i can just mount the new ones on the sides. oh decisions
sorry for repeated posts, but I am a pretty big newbie. So literature says my woofer for the components go as low as 35 hz. If i get a sub that goes from about 30-200, then I would have everything covered right? or are there specific frequencies that are used more and need more oomph for lack of a better term.
In other words, what are some suggestions for some a good sound quality set up. that would fit in my rear deck (cutting it up, replacing 6x9s, etc)
sorry for repeated posts, but I am a pretty big newbie. So literature says my woofer for the components go as low as 35 hz. If i get a sub that goes from about 30-200, then I would have everything covered right? or are there specific frequencies that are used more and need more oomph for lack of a better term.
In other words, what are some suggestions for some a good sound quality set up. that would fit in my rear deck (cutting it up, replacing 6x9s, etc)
You wouldn't have everything covered, crank up Live Wire by the Beastie Boys, or Bass I Love You by Bassotronics without a high pass crossover on your sub and you'll know what I mean. But for 90% of music you wouldn't be missing much, if anything.
Tuning the sub to around 35hz-40hz with a high pass between 25hz-30hz and a low pass around 85hz, is the most common setup and does well. You want your mid-range to pickup where the sub fades out on the top end, a little overlapping is best, you want it to be a smooth transition.
You could fit a single sealed 10" sub and two 6.5" mid-basses in the rear deck, with mid-ranges in the front doors, and a good set of tweeters in dash pods, and it would sound too bad.
You need to educate yourself a bit before you start.
I'd like to suggest these sites www.the12volt.comwww.bcae1.com
and the tutorials section of www.diyma.com (particularly the sticky at the top of the tutorial section) - tons of free basic info and advanced stuff too
You will find the answers to all your questions and more with a little research.
This stuff is a lot less intimidating once you understand it a bit more.
thank everyone, sexywasd thanks for dealing iwht my crap, that was actually what i was planning (thinkin between an 8 or 10 swith sealed enclsure, need to do some measuring) and mid bass for my 6x9s. This isnt for now. I have alot of crap to do but im lookin all this stuff to do next year when i have more time.
Any other suggestions would be welcome
For those who know, what would Alpine's spx-17ref's woofers be considered?
Last edited by NotoriousVIC; 08-26-2009 at 11:46 AM.
I'd have to agree with SexieWASD... only because I have my components in the front and sub out the back setup like this :P
I have 4 inch Pioneer 80w RMS drivers with 1 inch tweeters which I have installed in the A pillar of the front door. They would probably be better if I placed them on the dash and faced them directly back towards myself, but I can't be fked messing around with it at the moment! hehehe
My head unit doesn't have a high pass filter, but has a low pass... Sub's low pass is set at 80hz and the speakers have a resistor put on the positive line to have a high pass at 85hz. Works well for me - took the distortion/bass out of my fronts hahahaha... didn't want them being destroyed.
You'll need to make final adjustments to the kind of music you play. I only play Metal in my car, so the really low frequencies don't apply as much as they would with Rap, RnB, Hip Hop and all that crap. I like a bit of PUNCH when the drummer hits the kick... or makes fast use of the double kick with triggers on the drumset... also good for high frequencies when the snare is hit - should feel like your ears are splitting to get the "desired effect"
I spose you can say - this can become an artform in some respects.
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hahahaha... didn't want them being destroyed.
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