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Old 09-02-2009, 12:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation help diagnosing uneven brake pad wear please

Hey all, about a day ago i was driving normally and my rear brakes started to make a sound. I looked at them the next day and it was clear they needed to be replaced. i took them off today and the left rear pads were down to the bone where the right rear pads where just about 50% down. i did all the brakes at the same time last year and again this year so can't be older pads.

now when i drive sometimes i hear a grinding sound from the left rear and sounds like it would if i drove with the e-brake on. i get out of the car to inspect anything suspicious and can smell the brakes cooked. only the left side not the right all the other brakes are fine just the left rear.

could this be a caliper or rotor problem? Any help would be much appreciated.

and a quick question, when i put my rims back on and drove on the highway i noticed alot of shaking as though the wheels arent balanced or aligned, could this be becuase of the wheel weights on the car, should i reinstall with wheels again with the wheel weights facing certain directions?? again any help would be much appreciated
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Assuming that you have 4 wheel disc brakes and not rear drums brakes since you said "left rear pads" the rear caliper may be sticking. It may constantly be putting pressure on that rear rotor. You could have a stuck caliper piston, a stuck caliper slide pin or even a rear brake hose to that caliper that has collapsed and does not let the caliper retract to it's relaxed position. To determine a sticking brake simply jack up the rear of the car with the emergency brake off and try to rotate each rear brake by hand. If it's stuck on, the left rear will be very hard to rotate. If so, remove the left rear wheel and do some diagnostic work on that brake. Remove the caliper if you can. Do the slide pins slide in and out easily? Can you retract the piston with a large c-clamp and one of the pads in to the bore of the caliper? Can you see and feel the brake hose on that side? Is it collapsed?

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Old 09-02-2009, 12:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^ that seems to be a common problem on the third gen all-disc camrys. especially in the left rear...
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You should identify the source like Mike said. I'd guess possibly replace the caliper, caliper bracket (with anchor pins and new pin boots), and I'd go ahead and do the brake hose while at it. Flush the system with new brake fluid as well.

See how things work after that. Then see if the pads, rotor, and wheel bearing need attention.



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Hey all, about a day ago i was driving normally and my rear brakes started to make a sound. I looked at them the next day and it was clear they needed to be replaced. i took them off today and the left rear pads were down to the bone where the right rear pads where just about 50% down. i did all the brakes at the same time last year and again this year so can't be older pads.

now when i drive sometimes i hear a grinding sound from the left rear and sounds like it would if i drove with the e-brake on. i get out of the car to inspect anything suspicious and can smell the brakes cooked. only the left side not the right all the other brakes are fine just the left rear.

could this be a caliper or rotor problem? Any help would be much appreciated.

and a quick question, when i put my rims back on and drove on the highway i noticed alot of shaking as though the wheels arent balanced or aligned, could this be becuase of the wheel weights on the car, should i reinstall with wheels again with the wheel weights facing certain directions?? again any help would be much appreciated
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Assuming that you have 4 wheel disc brakes and not rear drums brakes since you said "left rear pads" the rear caliper may be sticking. It may constantly be putting pressure on that rear rotor. You could have a stuck caliper piston, a stuck caliper slide pin or even a rear brake hose to that caliper that has collapsed and does not let the caliper retract to it's relaxed position. To determine a sticking brake simply jack up the rear of the car with the emergency brake off and try to rotate each rear brake by hand. If it's stuck on, the left rear will be very hard to rotate. If so, remove the left rear wheel and do some diagnostic work on that brake. Remove the caliper if you can. Do the slide pins slide in and out easily? Can you retract the piston with a large c-clamp and one of the pads in to the bore of the caliper? Can you see and feel the brake hose on that side? Is it collapsed?

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thank you for the quick responses guys i will try to follow your directions mike and hopefully i can pinpoint the problem, i remember pushing back the piston with the c clamp was easy. I think its just the caliper if anything i'll just replace the caliper, can't be too hard; even so i'll try to check out the hose and pins. thanks again guys i'll keep you guys posted
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If you can turn the c-clamp easily with your fingers then it would seem like less of a problem? Maybe like you said, you "drove with the e-brake on".

Maybe the parking brake needs cleaning/lubing.

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thank you for the quick responses guys i will try to follow your directions mike and hopefully i can pinpoint the problem, i remember pushing back the piston with the c clamp was easy. I think its just the caliper if anything i'll just replace the caliper, can't be too hard; even so i'll try to check out the hose and pins. thanks again guys i'll keep you guys posted
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i did use the e brake hours before hand maybe the parking brake would need a lube im gonna switch out the calipier this weekend hopefuly
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I'm putting money on the slider pins!!!

Every Camry I've had so far as had the problem of uneven wear because of them!!!

Even some Mecanics told me Yota's are known for bad sliders
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if anything i'll just replace the caliper
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I'm putting money on the slider pins!!!
Do the slider pins first. Every brake pad replacement should include dismantling the slides and pins, cleaning and re-greasing.
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Even some Mecanics told me Yota's are known for bad sliders
They aren't as bad as GM's. If you take care of them properly when you change the brakes then they shouldn't ever be a problem, Now warping front rotors is a yota problem. They really really dislike cheap pads.
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I have to agree with Stillrunning. Don't change the caliper yet. Do the slider pins first. See if they are moving in and out freely. If not, see if you can get it/them out and then relube it and reinsert it.

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Like others said, check the pins and I'd say check/clean the parking brake too before you start replacing things.

Basically going through that list from Mike and try to identify the source of the problem. If simply cleaning/lubing fixed it then great.

But if you need to repalce, consider a "more complete" replacement of parts in that area.

Also, don't spray brake cleaner directly on the pin boots. Wipe them with alcohol. Petroleum solvents swell the rubber, and then your pins are really going be stuck!


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i did use the e brake hours before hand maybe the parking brake would need a lube im gonna switch out the calipier this weekend hopefuly
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Yeah, I figure these Aisins are just budget brand brakes. I guess there is no chance we're going to see Brembos any time soon.


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I'm putting money on the slider pins!!!

Every Camry I've had so far as had the problem of uneven wear because of them!!!

Even some Mecanics told me Yota's are known for bad sliders
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