5s-fe Fluids????

[H.Rivera]

so i am in the process of bringing my 94 Camry Back to life and i was wondering what would be the best fluids to use. 226000 miles

in the engine i was going to drop

Mobile 1 Full Synthetic High Mileage 10w40
Mobile 1 Oil Filter

Radiator
Oriley Brand 50/50 Antifreeze


1.Is there an additive i should be looking in to?
2. Is there a better choice in oils?
3. For the radiator.. any other fluid i should be looking into?
4. What about power steering?

[touringcamry]

For coolant, I think you may be better off with Zerex Asian Vehicle or the red stuff from the dealer. Though I've just use regular Prestone stuff without any issues either.

Power steering is Dexron III ATF, use the one to your liking. If it's the original fill from the factory, the stuff is yellow rather than red.

Will you be doing the transmission fluid also?

Brake fluid should be switched out regularly -- maybe every 3 years or so. Castrol LMA or Valvoline Synthetic are the ones I usually use. Any DOT 3 fluid will work though.

[H.Rivera]

hmm well i just recently had the transmission put in.. but im pretty sure they putt some cheep oriley stuff in it..

for the transmission should it be flushed since im changing everything out anyway?

[carsrus]

Have you always run synthetic in the engine?
If you havent ran it before I wouldent change over at 226k, unless it doesnt burn oil in which case you should be alright.

If you havent ran synthetic before, maybe first try out a synthetic blend oil (castrol and valvoline make some good stuff). Use that for a couple oil changes and then switch over to mobil 1 if eerythings good.

[flyeri]

If it has not had synthetic previously i would not go straight to Mobil 1. If you have any oil leaks the syn will leak more although the high mileage stuff causes the seals to swell slightly so this might not be a problem. I would use 3 qts of regular high mileage oil (I like Castrol) and 1 quart of Mobil 1 high mileage synthetic. This 25%-75% blend works well and provides more synthetic than premixed blends.

Touringcamry is right on on the other fluids and I am not sure that the standard Prestone or Zerex antifreeze is ok. Never had a problem with them. Just be sure to look at the manual and get the correct "type" product.

[JohnGD]

Better oils? Mobil-1 0W-40, which also meets BMW LL01 spec 5W-30.VW 502 spec 5W-30. (You can't use Mobil-1 5W-30 in those engines! Doesn't meet the stringent LL01, VW 502/505 specs.) And no, using LL01 won't turn your Camry into a BMW either.

Valvoline's Zerex Asian Vehicles coolant sounds good, without the 2EHA acid in variants of GM Dexcool. But it comes only 50%-50% diluted, and I haven't seen the new Zerex yet. 2 gallons Peake Global 50%-50% is about the price of 1 gallon Toyota old Red concentrate (but the Red is only a 2-year/30K-mile coolant). And distilled water is cheap ~$1.

+1 on the Castrol GT LMA brake fluid and Valvoline Synthetic.

Walmart SuperTech Dexron II/III compatible ATF works. (D II/III is no longer licensed out by GM, so you can only get "compatible" ones). If you want inexpensive synthetic blends D II/III compatible form of Mercon V works too, for example Walmart Supertech Mercon V. I think Dexron VI might be too thin for these old gears.

Originally Posted by H.Rivera

so i am in the process of bringing my 94 Camry Back to life and i was wondering what would be the best fluids to use. 226000 miles

in the engine i was going to drop

Mobile 1 Full Synthetic High Mileage 10w40
Mobile 1 Oil Filter

Radiator
Oriley Brand 50/50 Antifreeze


1.Is there an additive i should be looking in to?
2. Is there a better choice in oils?
3. For the radiator.. any other fluid i should be looking into?
4. What about power steering?

[Bence]

Hey guys, my 92 Camry didn't like the Dex III in its diff (rough feel, noises), so I switched back to Dex IID and I haven't experienced anything abnormal ever since.

Now I'm planning a tranny flush, but I don't know if I could upgrade to Dex III from Dex IID.

I'm using synthetic Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 oil and have no probs at all.

[JohnGD]

In the US we can only get Dexron VI or Dexron II/III compatible fluid. I suppose the latter meet the Dexron IIIh spec when GM was still licensing it. I read Dexron VI is too thin for some older models.

Now GM only licenses Dexron VI, so we have to use Dex II/III compatible without the license name of "Dexron" on them.

Originally Posted by Bence

Hey guys, my 92 Camry didn't like the Dex III in its diff (rough feel, noises), so I switched back to Dex IID and I haven't experienced anything abnormal ever since.

Now I'm planning a tranny flush, but I don't know if I could upgrade to Dex III from Dex IID.

I'm using synthetic Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 oil and have no probs at all.

[touringcamry]

Originally Posted by JohnGD

Better oils? Mobil-1 0W-40, which also meets BMW LL01 spec 5W-30.VW 502 spec 5W-30. (You can't use Mobil-1 5W-30 in those engines! Doesn't meet the stringent LL01, VW 502/505 specs.) And no, using LL01 won't turn your Camry into a BMW either.

As long as the oil meets GF-4 or GL-4 (I forget which is motor and which is gear oil ATM) the oil should be fine. Those are the specifications that Toyota usually recommends for engine or manual transmission (except for those odd ball ones that use Dexron).

Originally Posted by JohnGD

Valvoline's Zerex Asian Vehicles coolant sounds good, without the 2EHA acid in variants of GM Dexcool. But it comes only 50%-50% diluted, and I haven't seen the new Zerex yet. The Peake Global 50%-50% is about the price of Toyota old Red (but the Red is only a 2-year/30K-mile coolant). And distilled water is cheap.

Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't even notice Zerex Asian Vehicle was diluted already.

[motorking]

Originally Posted by H.Rivera

so i am in the process of bringing my 94 Camry Back to life and i was wondering what would be the best fluids to use. 226000 miles

in the engine i was going to drop

Mobile 1 Full Synthetic High Mileage 10w40
Mobile 1 Oil Filter

Radiator
Oriley Brand 50/50 Antifreeze


1.Is there an additive i should be looking in to?
2. Is there a better choice in oils?
3. For the radiator.. any other fluid i should be looking into?
4. What about power steering?

Hi,
I am the tech training manager for Prestone and FRAM.
Your engine does not need 10w40 oil, the 40w is only going to cost you fuel economy and performance. Toyota calls for 10w30 in normal climates and 5w30 in cold climates.
Here are the instructions for changing your coolant, You can use Prestone all makes coolant in the 50/50 mixture or mix your own from concentrate, make sure you use demineralized water when mixing, Toyota is pretty concerned about that.
WARNING: To avoid the danger of being burned, do not remove coolant while the engine and radiator are still hot, as fluid and steam can be blown out under pressure.

1. Drain the coolant from the radiator drain **** and engine drain plug. (Engine drain plug at the right rear of the engine block.)
2. Close the drain **** and plug. Torque (Engine drain plug): 13 Nm (9 ft lb)
3. Slowly fill the system with coolant using a good brand of ethylene-glycol base coolant and mix it according to the manufacturer's directions. CAUTION: Do not use an alcohol type coolant. NOTE: Using coolant which includes more than 50% ethylene - glycol (but not more than 70%) is recommended and should be mixed with demineralized water or distilled water. Capacity: 6.3 liters (6.7 US qts)
4. Reinstall the radiator cap, warm up the engine and check for leaks. Recheck the coolant level and refill as necessary.

If I can answer any questions for you about coolants or filters, my email is Jay.Buckley@Honeywell.com

[JohnGD]

Peake Global and the recent Valvoline Asian Vehicle coolants are both 2-EHA-free coolants. I don't suppose Prestone plans to offer a 2EHA-free version?

Originally Posted by motorking

Hi,
I am the tech training manager for Prestone and FRAM.

[motorking]

Originally Posted by JohnGD

Peake Global and the recent Valvoline Asian Vehicle coolants are both 2-EHA-free coolants. I don't suppose Prestone plans to offer a 2EHA-free version?

We are always exploring new poducts. We have never had any issue's with 2EH in a properly functioning cooling system. It is an excellent corrosion inhibitor.