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Old 10-13-2009, 04:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Engine Swap Help - Camry Station Wagon

Hey, I own a 1996 Camry Station Wagon LE 3.0. The engine has developed a terrible knock, and I was just wondering what engines are easiest to swap. The engine in this car is a 1mzfe, and I would like to have something with as much, if not more, power.

I was looking at the later MZs or the GRs, (though I don't know much about those), but if there are any other power plants, toyota or not, that would be comparatively easier to drop in, that would be nice to know.

Also, if you guys know of any resources in the future that I could consult about compatible engine types, please tell me.

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For a wagon, go with the 3VZ (or any car, for that matter )
over 100 whp at 2000 revs, and pretty torquey
plus, you can tune it to 200 hp for free, it's highly detonation resistant (and yet I still run mine on 91 ), and it's a great sounding motor
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just put in another 1mz-fe engine. it's alot better to do that. much easier and that is all you need
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just put in another 1mz-fe engine. it's alot better to do that. much easier and that is all you need
It seems that we have a disagreement in philosophy
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Hey, I own a 1996 Camry Station Wagon LE 3.0. The engine has developed a terrible knock, and I was just wondering what engines are easiest to swap. The engine in this car is a 1mzfe, and I would like to have something with as much, if not more, power.
as you can see he already owns a 1mz. so maybe using a 3mz block with 1mz heads would be the way to go. or look into a 3mz vvtl-i swap.(but that would take some wiring)

do a search and you can find alot of info.

the engines that fit on that subframe are as follows> 1mzfe , 3vzfe , 3mzfe , 5sfe(weak 4cylinder) , 3sg(T)e (with minor engine mount mod)

and you might want the E153 5spd tranny hard to get good luck
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Agree with Gino...

I reckon you can go one step further... get a nice 1MZ, get it built properly and source a TRD Supercharger for it. Would be better than just getting a bigger engine
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Agree with Gino...

I reckon you can go one step further... get a nice 1MZ, get it built properly and source a TRD Supercharger for it. Would be better than just getting a bigger engine
you say that like ist easy to find a TRD S/C.
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you say that like ist easy to find a TRD S/C.
How true
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How hard would it be to rebuild this particular engine? I know these are a bit tighter fitting, but what exactly can I do to increase the power out put. Also does anyone know what a 1mz would run at tear-apart or pick n pull?

P.S. In general what would be the best route for forced induction, a turbocharger or a supercharger.
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actually, I've been wondering that myself
I was originally planning to go turbo, but seemed somewhat pricey (~4-6 grand), and difficult to mount, especially since I have no welding experience, and very few of my friends are of the kind that I could let loose under the hood (at least without worrying about, say, having them accidentally route the coolant lines into my intake/some other epic fail)

supercharger seems easier to mount and marginally cheaper
but power/cost and reliability are at issue, it seems
(insofar as the 1mz blower [Eaton m62, I believe] is concerned)

I'd actually like a nice in-depth answer to this one, if any of the gurus/legends want to contribute
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you could get an sc14 from a previa and mount it in place of your a/c compressor run the charge pipes and bam power at the hit of a switch.

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^^^^ I have no idea what this dude jus said

but as far as a little more power you always have the opption to do a over bore on the cylinders i wouldnt go ova .0030 but an over bore always increases the cubic displacement of your engine... i maybe wrong someone correct me NICELY if i am please. If you still want more port and polish your heads and get bigger valves and better springs, and if its possible for our cars find performance cam shafts. This upgrade is a good way to make your engine breathe freer... if thats a word and also give you more horsepower and Torque. Get um done right so it might take some money. and im pretty sure theres a guy here, i havent seen or heard from him here but i know he on Solaraguy DOT com he is actually trying to make a S/C for our cars. I think he is callin it the M90, dont quote me on that but if he is able to mass produce it im buyin it and LOOK OUT COBOLT SS's

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if you remove the a/c compressor and install a toyota sc14 (supercharger) you get added power at the flick of a switch(the sc14 is magneticly clutch driven)
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:20 AM   #14 (permalink)
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if you remove the a/c compressor and install a toyota sc14 (supercharger) you get added power at the flick of a switch(the sc14 is magneticly clutch driven)
that's crazy, and looks stock in that pic. too bad you couldn't lose power steering and put it back there instead - i rather like my air conditioning down here in texas...

one other point to consider - if, like me, you live in an emissions area that does obd-ii testing, then you HAVE to keep an obd-ii compliant motor in there, since you already have one. the 1mzfe is obd-ii, as are later engines of course. the 3vzfe, since it's older, is not obd-ii. that (and money) is one thing keeping me from doing a motor swap on my 97 miata - if i want it to be street legal, i have to put another obd-ii engine in there.

i say just stick another 1mzfe in there, swap it to a stickshift at the same time, and if you still feel the need, drop a trd supercharger on it. i've seen some come up for sale in the classifieds here and on solaraguy.
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trust me im watchin the classifides like a hawk. but that sc14 wouldnt be a bad idea, but i too like my air conditioning. thanks for spellin it out for me tho and the pic helped and did look stock. does it give as much hp as the TRD S/C?
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