Trouble Removing Right Side Halfshaft - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

haux · 11-14-2009, 07:58 PM

As the title says, I had trouble removing the right side halfshaft today (longer one of the two). I got the snap-ring off, removed that one bolt, but that effing bearing is stuck in there really tight. It wouldn't budge a millimeter. Sprayed PB plaster in various areas, no luck. Is there a trick to it or does it just need to be hammered out?

We're gonna try doing the left side tomorrow. But I don't know what to do about this right one if we can't get it to move.

***ASG14*** · 11-14-2009, 08:26 PM

I did my dad's a month ago.......I had to remove the entire BRACKET to get the axle out. Then I ended up replacing the damn bracket. It was SO siezed in, even the hydrolic press couldn't pop the carrier bearing from the bracket.

haux · 11-14-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJJJJ

Try a long pry bar to see if it gives any.

We tried using my lug nut bar... no go. =\

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Originally Posted by ASG14

I did my dad's a month ago.......I had to remove the entire BRACKET to get the axle out. Then I ended up replacing the damn bracket. It was SO siezed in, even the hydrolic press couldn't pop the carrier bearing from the bracket.

I was thinking about taking down the whole bracket, but didn't really consider having to replace it. Do you remember what it's called? Maybe I can snag the part number from the dealer and order it on 1sttoyotaparts.

***ASG14*** · 11-14-2009, 09:48 PM

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_200...PNKA_1107.html

haux · 11-14-2009, 10:11 PM

So, apparently it's called the Drive Shaft Bearing Bracket, but that site doesn't show it at all. They have part numbers/price of the bolt and snap ring for it, but not the bracket itself. That's ok though, I'll harass my dealer first thing Monday.

***ASG14*** · 11-14-2009, 10:26 PM

^ Not sure what you mean, it;s all right there.

12321A BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, REAR (FOR TRANSVERSE ENGINE)
12321-74380 5SFE..SXV20..JPP..ATM

haux · 11-15-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ASG14

^ Not sure what you mean, it;s all right there.

12321A BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, REAR (FOR TRANSVERSE ENGINE)
12321-74380 5SFE..SXV20..JPP..ATM

I saw that, but it doesn't look anything like what I remember. o.O

Especially since the one in that picture attaches to the rear engine mount.
Odd. I'll have to take another look.

Thank you for the info.

***ASG14*** · 11-15-2009, 12:26 AM

^ Trust me, it does. And it;s a pain. 1 nut holts it to the mount, 4 hold it to the block.

haux · 11-15-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ASG14

^ Trust me, it does. And it;s a pain. 1 nut holts it to the mount, 4 hold it to the block.

$170. Holy monkeyfuck. I'm gonna have to blow the Toyota dealer parts guy AGAIN.

***ASG14*** · 11-15-2009, 12:47 AM

^ HAHAHAH!

Those prices are a little high, so it should be like $155.

Anyway, get it out, then see if you can have it pressed out. 4/5 times it works.

haux · 11-15-2009, 12:48 PM

This is really starting to get annoying. The left shaft won't come out either. There's nothing clearly holding it in place, other than the inside of the differential. What the hell is up? It pulls out maybe a couple millimeters and then stops. Once again tried using my lug nut bar to pry it out and... nothing.

How the hell do shops get these fuckers to move?

EDIT: Wasted another two hours today... this time in the rain.

bronzemaxell · 11-15-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by haux

This is really starting to get annoying. The left shaft won't come out either. There's nothing clearly holding it in place, other than the inside of the differential. What the hell is up? It pulls out maybe a couple millimeters and then stops. Once again tried using my lug nut bar to pry it out and... nothing.

How the hell do shops get these fuckers to move?

EDIT: Wasted another two hours today... this time in the rain.

driver side is held by a c clip at the end of the shaft, you really need a little bit of force to pull it out, if you pay attention at the axle, the shaft housing has 3 little denture, pick anyone, get a real prybar, and rotate the axle to the nearest bolt on the differential, and pry against the bolt with a big push at once, one shot. it will come out, you can also try pry against aa 2x4 stud on differential if you afraid to scatch the aluminum. lug wrench might work, but a little big longer pry bar helps.

***JohnGD*** · 11-15-2009, 10:13 PM

If a halfshaft won't come out, push it back in and rotate the wheel 120 degrees (1/3 turn) and try again. This helps put the circlip in the right orientation so it would be easier to pry it out. You may have to try a few times.

Most of the time it's getting the circlip back in that might take some time. Try the same.

As far as the passenger side. Take the support out and PB blast it. It's a good time to replace the bearing. And with 330+K miles it should be replaced.

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Originally Posted by haux

This is really starting to get annoying. The left shaft won't come out either. There's nothing clearly holding it in place, other than the inside of the differential. What the hell is up? It pulls out maybe a couple millimeters and then stops. Once again tried using my lug nut bar to pry it out and... nothing.

How the hell do shops get these fuckers to move?

EDIT: Wasted another two hours today... this time in the rain.

haux · 11-15-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnGD

If a halfshaft won't come out, push it back in and rotate the wheel 120 degrees (1/3 turn) and try again. This helps put the circlip in the right orientation so it would be easier to pry it out. You may have to try a few times.

Most of the time it's getting the circlip back in that might take some time. Try the same.

As far as the passenger side. Take the support out and PB blast it. It's a good time to replace the bearing. And with 330+K miles it should be replaced.

I will try that. I did try rotating the wheel a bit... but we'll give it another shot of course.

However, regarding the bearing, I'm replacing both shafts entirely, not just doing maintenance on them. So the bearing is included on the new one. Today when we were trying the driver's side shaft, I did notice the inner boot has a tear in it. First time seeing that. No sign of anything leaking out though.

Also, I JUST remembered that I bought the differential seals for the shafts. I'm sort of glad we weren't able to get them out now, because I would have forgotten. Is changing those pretty straightforward? Do they just go inside the holes... or is there anything I need to know first?

And, now I see where the rear engine and transmission mounts are. I might buy those now as changing them out will be easier with all of that stuff disassembled.

***JohnGD*** · 11-15-2009, 11:00 PM

Yeah, I didn't mean actually pressing in the bearing. Some people actually bought just the one outer halfshaft and missed a good chance to swap out the bearing that's on the inner halfshaft. But most people don't driver over 330K miles either.

You carefully pry the differential seal out without scoring the bore. With a screwdriver or with a seal puller: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=35556

Then carefully tap the new seal in using a large socket or one of those Home Depot PVC pipe. Coat the halfshaft contact surface with a little ATF and the inner lip of the seal too. Transmission assembly lube actually would be ideal, but I don't have any. Some seals come with a little silicone grease on the inner lip.

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Originally Posted by haux

Also, I JUST remembered that I bought the differential seals for the shafts. I'm sort of glad we weren't able to get them out now, because I would have forgotten. Is changing those pretty straightforward? Do they just go inside the holes... or is there anything I need to know first?

And, now I see where the rear engine and transmission mounts are. I might buy those now as changing them out will be easier with all of that stuff disassembled.