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Old 11-21-2009, 03:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Upgrading 3Gen Brakes..HELP!

Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade brakes on my 1996 camry LE 4cyl. I've been driving around when it's cold and moist and been having problems braking. Feels like the calipers are slipping.

Looking to get brembo rotors and akebono pads, however, I will only be upgrading the fronts. The rears will still be using stock drum.

My question is will I have any issues with brake bias? and do u think this is a good upgrade or should I just stick to OEM replacement?

Thanks in advance
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i would say you see a bigger improvement if you can nab a set of rear disk.

what brembo's are you going for? blanks? sloted? cross drilled?
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blanks. My car has rear drums and I don't plan to upgrade to rear disk. It's a bit too much work/cost for me right now.
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i dont see brembo blanks doing too much more if your not going to be doing alot of hard braking that would crack or warp the factory disk, most of increase increase in braking will be from your pads (i dont know much on pads dont need too till sept when i get ready for targa). or if your current setup isnt bad a set of ss lines does the most improvement for the dollar.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-...Q5fAccessories

well really also if you haven't ever flushed your brake fluid that does wonders..... big wonders dont swap to dot 5 like i did, it gets hard to find the fluid in a pinch if you need it. 5.1 is fine.
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Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade brakes on my 1996 camry LE 4cyl. I've been driving around when it's cold and moist and been having problems braking. Feels like the calipers are slipping.
Untill you solve your brake problem Brembos aren't going to fix anything. Why would you need fancy brakes for street driving anyway?
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Your not gonna see any real difference with brembo rotors.
Get some nice ceramic pads, ss brake lines, & call it a day.

If you want some serious breaking, swap the front to dual piston calipers from the Lexus put those on the front. Your gonna need larger rims, 14" wont cut it. & Upgrade the rear to disc off a Camry, or if you want, get a wagon rear disc, those things are HUGE.

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"if your current setup isnt bad a set of ss lines does the most improvement for the dollar.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-1994-Camry-Sedan-4-cyl-Stainless-Steel-Brake-Lines_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b7a2877eQQitemZ 110455064446QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories"


Id have to agree with that assessment. Stainless steel braided brake lines dramatically helped that squishy feeling that the brake pedal seemed to have. Im riding on the cheapest Autozone rotors and some A-zone ceramic pads. The brake lnies make the differance not the rotors. Pads are more of a personal prefrence as to dust and material ect.
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Brembo is a superior rotor than stock. Get them on Amazon. And check rockauto for Akebono prices. Brembo/Akebono ProAct is a good combination for normal driving. Not performance by any means because of ProAct, unless you want to go Hawk HPS pads.

Some Toyota stock pads are made by Akebono but with a cheaper EE-friction rating (marking AK xxx-xxx EE). I don't know if they still use NBK. IMO those are junk. You may see some Sumitomos too.

ProAct is FF friction rated. I don't think you'll be off by much with the setup. However, unless you basically have no rear brakes.

Have you bled the system lately? I'd use only Castrol GT LMA (Low Moisture Activity) or Valvoline Synthetic (also a LMA fluid) that's occasionally on sale at Autozone.



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Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade brakes on my 1996 camry LE 4cyl. I've been driving around when it's cold and moist and been having problems braking. Feels like the calipers are slipping.

Looking to get brembo rotors and akebono pads, however, I will only be upgrading the fronts. The rears will still be using stock drum.

My question is will I have any issues with brake bias? and do u think this is a good upgrade or should I just stick to OEM replacement?

Thanks in advance
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Thanks for the advice guys!
The only reason I wanted to get those brembo rotors is because it's time to replace my stock rotors. The brembos price diff is not too much so thats why I was considering it.

But I will look into the ss lines.

What about brake bias? Will I have to worry about this too? since the back r still running on stock drums.
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No. Dont worry. None of this should effect the brake bias. The pressure will be the same. As far as upgrading to the Brembo rotors. If the price diff isnt that much it might be worth it but not necessary. The brake lines is where you will notice a diff. The rotors you will probably not notice much if anything at all.
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definatly upgrade to SS brake lines. prolly the best upgrade you can make.
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If your calibers turn out to be sticking and you have to replace them you might want to consider the V6 fronts, which would also require rotors (you need anyway) pads, and perhaps a different caliper bracket.
The thing to verify is whether or not you can do it with 14 inch wheels. Otherwise, ceamic pads are a good
choice and braided lines are as well. Changing lines does require bleeding the system, though, which is a good excuse for replacing the fluid.
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BTW does anyone have a good source for stainless braid brake lines. From what I see proces are all over the lot.
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If your calibers turn out to be sticking and you have to replace them you might want to consider the V6 fronts, which would also require rotors (you need anyway) pads, and perhaps a different caliper bracket.
The thing to verify is whether or not you can do it with 14 inch wheels. Otherwise, ceamic pads are a good
choice and braided lines are as well. Changing lines does require bleeding the system, though, which is a good excuse for replacing the fluid.

you need the v6 hubs (maybe axles?)
15" rims
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