3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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I'm in love with my Camry all over again!
That's the Camry there in the middle. ->
I put on the Whiteline rear swaybar tonight. Amazing! Even at it's current age and mileage, my car has never been as awesome as it became tonight. Also put in some JBL rear speakers (from a donor XLE Camry), and the difference is incredible.
After the work tonight, I went on an hour-long drive around town and made some love... to the Camry. I just hope the stains aren't permanent.
That brings me to my question.
The original swaybar had these rubber rings, held on by metal clamps. The new Whiteline didn't come with them. Are they necessary?
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
didn't come with what? The bushings("rubber rings") or the brackets(metal clamps)?
It came with bushings. And I re-used the original metal clamps/brackets. The original swaybar also had *round* rubber pieces, that were right next to the bushings.
They look like the o-shaped ones in this picture -> http://i46.tinypic.com/2mpzx2r.jpg ...and they had metal clamps around them holding them tightly. The clamps did not appear be be re-usable, and the rubber pieces wouldn't fit into the new swaybar anyway even if I wanted to reuse them, since the Whiteline bar is thicker. I *assumed* that since the Whiteline bar did not come with anything of the sort, then it's not needed, so I didn't stress over it.
EDIT: The round rubber things seemed to act as sort of "stops" to keep the bar from sliding horizontally.
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
I remember seeing a how-to diy for the whiteline sway-bar try searching it. Btw, how much of a difference did the new sway bar make? I'm really wanting 2 get one.
I remember seeing a how-to diy for the whiteline sway-bar try searching it. Btw, how much of a difference did the new sway bar make? I'm really wanting 2 get one.
Yeah, I browsed through that DIY too. And I don't remember seeing anything about these rubber rings. Another reason why I didn't worry about it. I just want to make sure 100% that they have no benefit, and that I don't need to find some.
I should have driven my car a bit rougher just after the Tokico/Eibach stuff was put on. 'cause then I could do it again after the swaybar and see the difference it made.
But anyway, today I made a turn very sharply, and it felt absolutely stable. Very little if any unbalance or "sway." It didn't feel like my car was going to fly off the wheels like it used to.
Installation was pretty darn easy too.
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
Yeah, I browsed through that DIY too. And I don't remember seeing anything about these rubber rings. Another reason why I didn't worry about it. I just want to make sure 100% that they have no benefit, and that I don't need to find some.
I should have driven my car a bit rougher just after the Tokico/Eibach stuff was put on. 'cause then I could do it again after the swaybar and see the difference it made.
But anyway, today I made a turn very sharply, and it felt absolutely stable. Very little if any unbalance or "sway." It didn't feel like my car was going to fly off the wheels like it used to.
Installation was pretty darn easy too.
For me, the difference between a springs/struts setup vs. one with the rear sway bar is night and day. That was one of the best mods I did for the price. After adding the strut bar, it made the car more predictable under hard cornering and kinda controlled the oversteer caused by the rear sway bar.
I got the Whiteline RSB a few months back and love it. The rubber things you're talking about are called "keepers" (at least that's what I've seen them referred to as).
I went a week w/o them while I waited for an order of Polyurethane round bushings to come in to make my own. After I put them on, didn't notice any difference, so my opinion is that they're not really needed.
and I cut one in half and then split it to put on the bar. Used steel cable ties to hold them in place. If you want to make your own, regular rubber can be used too.
I got the Whiteline RSB a few months back and love it. The rubber things you're talking about are called "keepers" (at least that's what I've seen them referred to as).
I went a week w/o them while I waited for an order of Polyurethane round bushings to come in to make my own. After I put them on, didn't notice any difference, so my opinion is that they're not really needed.
These were the bushings I used and I cut one in half and then split it to put on the bar. Used steel cable ties to hold them in place. If you want to make your own, regular rubber can be used too.
Thanks for the info! I guess I will do the same.
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
The part number for my 2000 I4 was BRT39. But I guess yours is a Gen3. Looks identical anyway. Shape might be a tad different.
But yes, that's it. Good seller. Shipped it quickly. Comes with a little packet of grease for the bushings too.
That ebay seller also has a site, NeverEnoughAuto.com where I got mines before they put one up on ebay.
I used their MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) thingy to ask for their lowest price possible and got it for $140 + change.
Few weeks later I saw it on ebay for the same price, so it looks like you can get it at the same price from either their site with MAP or ebay.
There's another bar that has 3 holes for 01-06 Camry, adjustable for different settings, costs a bit more.
IIRC it can fit both Gen3&4 since the rear under body suspension is the same, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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