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I'm looking to get some new front door speakers and tweeters for my 2000 I4. I have absolutely no experience with car audio, so I don't know what's good and what sucks.
There's a donor XLE with a JBL system I took the rear speakers from the other day. And I also took the radio and JBL amplifier from it earlier on. How good is this JBL system? Is it pretty crappy compared to the better car audio systems out there?
The junkyard guy doesn't wanna sell the door speakers/tweeters separately, only with the doors. I've bought so much crap at this point that I'm pretty sure I could get a killer price on the doors, and just take the speakers. But are these JBL's even good enough to do that?
If not... then I want to get some aftermarket speakers. Not willing to pay $300. $100 sounds more reasonable. Maybe something to match the quality of the JBL amp and rear speakers?
Advice appreciated.
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
Beware that the regular system is quite different from the JBL system in terms of wiring. For example the the JBL systems has separate signals for each of the drivers between the amp and the drivers. The standard system just uses a cap to filter the low freqs from the tweeter and the wire runs from the radio to the drivers.
If you decide that you want to put in the JBL system you'll have to run new wiring from the head unit to the amp and then amp to the speakers. You may be able to use some of the existing wiring but I won't guarantee anything.
The JBL speakers that I've seen were all 2 Ohm so don't even think about using those with the regular stereo. It may overheat and shut down or you might damage it.
If you use aftermarket speakers you have another issue because most aftermarket speakers are 4 ohms so you'll get maybe half the power only. And then you'd have to get separate speakers or get a component set which will likely cost more than $100. You cannot use coaxials because the amp puts out separate channels for tweeter and mid as previously mentioned. Coaxial speakers need a full range signal.
YOu may be able to get a component set and run them without the crossover or find one that has bi-amp capability or get a separate set of mids and tweeters. These options will likely run more than $100.
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2007 Camry 2.4L 5M
Last edited by touringcamry; 12-05-2009 at 02:21 AM.
Just FYI, the vehicle I got the amp/rear speakers from had 56,000 miles. Newer than the 70k my car had when I bought it six years ago.
In any case, I was just looking at crutchfield ten minutes before I made this thread. =D
I went through the categories, selected my vehicle... and there were all kinds of brands. I could definitely make a decision based on the reviews there. And that is exactly what I would do when it comes to things I'm at least slightly familiar with, such as computer componants.
But when it comes to car audio, which I know nothing virtually nothing about, I'd like to get more opinions.
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
Beware that the regular system is quite different from the JBL system in terms of wiring. For example the the JBL systems has separate signals for each of the drivers between the amp and the drivers. The standard system just uses a cap to filter the low freqs from the tweeter and the wire runs from the radio to the drivers.
If you decide that you want to put in the JBL system you'll have to run new wiring from the head unit to the amp and then amp to the speakers. You may be able to use some of the existing wiring but I won't guarantee anything.
The JBL speakers that I've seen were all 2 Ohm so don't even think about using those with the regular stereo. It may overheat and shut down or you might damage it.
If you use aftermarket speakers you have another issue because most aftermarket speakers are 4 ohms so you'll get maybe half the power only. And then you'd have to get separate speakers or get a component set which will likely cost more than $100. You cannot use coaxials because the amp puts out separate channels for tweeter and mid as previously mentioned. Coaxial speakers need a full range signal.
YOu may be able to get a component set and run them without the crossover or find one that has bi-amp capability or get a separate set of mids and tweeters. These options will likely run more than $100.
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That's the look on my face right now.
Sorry, I totally don't know what you're talking about. Like I said, I know nothing about car audio.
I already put in the rear JBL speakers. I also already put in the new radio and JBL amp from that Camry XLE. That car has a sort of wiring harness extension that plugs directly into my existing wiring. Took me a couple days to figure it out, but I got it. It was sorta documented in another thread of mine.
If I bought speakers/tweeters that are specifically compatible with my vehicle, will they not have the correct connectors? Sort of a plug 'n play deal?
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2000 Toyota Camry LE (Japan made) i4 5S-FE 367,000+ miles.
Crutchfield really only carries mass market/mainstream stuff which isn't a hugely bad thing, but there are some smaller companies out there that make some excellent stuff that you may not have heard of. For example, Arc Audio makes some legendary amps but most haven't heard of them outside the audio enthusiast community.
I've never tried or read about anyone doing this conversion and I missed your other thread. I wasn't even aware you could just plug a JBL system into a car that was not equipped from the factory.
Aftermarket speakers generally have two metal tabs or screw posts on them to attach wiring. There is no plastic connector like what you've seen on the JBL and your stock speakers. You can either cut the connector off or you can find some kind of adapter for a few dollars but they're not common.
Speakers come in different sizes because they are designed to produce sound best within a certain range of frequencies. The smaller the speaker the higher the range. On the regular system in 2000 Camry, the tweeter has a capacitor that filters out certain frequencies because the power from low frequencies will damage it. Attached in line or in parallel with it is the mid which does not have any such filter because highs won't damage this driver. The JBL amplifier has an internal crossover which separates the incoming signal into two signals above and below a cutoff for the tweeter and mid. The regular system has no such separation.
If you want the JBL fronts, you'd have to look at another salvage yard or on eBay or Craigslist for speakers that came out of a similar vehicle to get the same connectors.
Crutchfield really only carries mass market/mainstream stuff which isn't a hugely bad thing, but there are some smaller companies out there that make some excellent stuff that you may not have heard of. For example, Arc Audio makes some legendary amps but most haven't heard of them outside the audio enthusiast community.
That set is the mid, tweeter, and crossover. I dunno how this will work out with the JBL amp though since these are 4 ohms and the JBL speakers are 2 ohms. Because of the doubled impedance, you'd only get half the power out of the amp compared to 2 ohm speakers. I posted that message before you said you already put the JBL radio and amp in. I'd recommend those for the regular system, but I can't say for certain with the JBL system.
I guess you could run the tweeters and the mid with the JBL amp and not use the crossover. The JBL amp should have four pairs of wires, two pairs each side, for the front speakers which your old system definitely does not have. You may have to run wiring for this. But I don't know what the crossover frequency for the JBL system is. The crossover freq for the CDT above is 4.3KHz.
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2007 Camry 2.4L 5M
Last edited by touringcamry; 12-05-2009 at 03:15 AM.
I've never tried or read about anyone doing this conversion and I missed your other thread. I wasn't even aware you could just plug a JBL system into a car that was not equipped from the factory.
Aftermarket speakers generally have two metal tabs or screw posts on them to attach wiring. There is no plastic connector like what you've seen on the JBL and your stock speakers. You can either cut the connector off or you can find some kind of adapter for a few dollars but they're not common.
Speakers come in different sizes because they are designed to produce sound best within a certain range of frequencies. The smaller the speaker the higher the range. On the regular system in 2000 Camry, the tweeter has a capacitor that filters out certain frequencies because the power from low frequencies will damage it. Attached in line or in parallel with it is the mid which does not have any such filter because highs won't damage this driver. The JBL amplifier has an internal crossover which separates the incoming signal into two signals above and below a cutoff for the tweeter and mid. The regular system has no such separation.
If you want the JBL fronts, you'd have to look at another salvage yard or on eBay or Craigslist for speakers that came out of a similar vehicle to get the same connectors.
Hm. Maybe I will have to just check with the junkyard guy to see if I can get those speakers then. One thing I really do not want to do is start cutting into existing wiring in the vehicle. Not sure why, but I'd like to stay away from it. So far I've gotten away with it... even with the whole new radio/amp installation, AND getting a passenger seat wired for power.
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