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Old 12-09-2009, 01:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Odd wheel behavior on jack stands

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My left CV joint is bad. When jack stand-ed and in P gear the wheel turns as if not locked by any gear!! Free spinning about its own axis The front passenger side wheel is locked firm however.

What could be the cause? Can a bad CV joint cause below behavior? Bad wheel bearing? Brake pads? Where should I start to look?
thanks in advance In the video below the wheel is off the ground on a jack stand and I am spinning the wheel while narrating the issue.
Note:Both the wheels are on jack stands. The front passenger side wheel locks properly in P gear. I couldnt spin the wheel at all. But I could very easily spin the front driver side wheel without any resistance whatsoever! Also the front driver side outer CV boot is torn and the joint makes clicking noises at turns.
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in the video, is the passenger wheel also off the ground?

im asking because if you first inspected the passenger side, jacked that side up and tried to spin it didnt because the driver's side wheel was still touching the ground. then if you moved the jack over and raised the driver's side but this time the opposite side wheel (passenger side) is off the ground as well, this would case the driver's side to spin (as well as passenger's side).

assuming none of what i just said is true, when you have the driver's side wheel up in the air, look under and see if the axel is turning as well. not just the axle shaft, but also the black toulip shaped part on the end where the inner rubber boot connects to by the differential (by the transmission).

i personally have never seen a CV axle fail and not make obvious noise or visibly damaged parts.
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I believe you may have discovered what a differential does.
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in the video, is the passenger wheel also off the ground?

im asking because if you first inspected the passenger side, jacked that side up and tried to spin it didnt because the driver's side wheel was still touching the ground. then if you moved the jack over and raised the driver's side but this time the opposite side wheel (passenger side) is off the ground as well, this would case the driver's side to spin (as well as passenger's side).

assuming none of what i just said is true, when you have the driver's side wheel up in the air, look under and see if the axel is turning as well. not just the axle shaft, but also the black toulip shaped part on the end where the inner rubber boot connects to by the differential (by the transmission).

i personally have never seen a CV axle fail and not make obvious noise or visibly damaged parts.
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in the video, is the passenger wheel also off the ground?
Yes. Both the wheels are off the ground. I had a helper press the brake pedal while I was spinning the wheel and it wouldnt stop
The outer CV joint is certainly gone bad as its making clicking noises (and a torn boot) when I turn although not as severe right now.

Has the driver side inner CV joint also gone bad causing no transmission gear to "lock" it? Could this indicate troubles with transmission?
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I believe you may have discovered what a differential does.
Thanks Kenny!
Does that mean the driver side differential has gone bad? How do I replace it?
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if both front wheels are off the ground, the wheel will turn. if the car is in park, the wheel will rotate - i think kenny was being facetious.

when your helper was pressing the brake pedal, was the engine running or off?

my guess is the differential (there is only one) and transmission are fine. if your car isnt able to drive, then there could be a problem.

since you have clicking the axle needs to be replaced. if the CV joint is in really bad shape, it could have come apart. either way, replace the axle.
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Thanks Kenny!
Does that mean the driver side differential has gone bad? How do I replace it?
Look up what a diff is, and what it does.
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Thanks again ghettosled!
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when your helper was pressing the brake pedal, was the engine running or off?
The engine was OFF/not running
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my guess is the differential (there is only one) and transmission are fine. if your car isnt able to drive, then there could be a problem.
The car runs just fine.The gear changes are absolutely smooth and very pleasant. I "manually" change gears by pushing on the gas till it reaches certain RPMs. It works like a charm and gets me great gas mileage!
Of late however I have observed that I have to rev the engine more to generate the same power. Could that be coz of the bad front drivers axle? I am assuming so...
I checked with local Kragen store and a reman with lifetime warranty is $60 left and $50 right.
The weather right now in Northern California is absolutely horrible. My apartment complex is so windy as if caught in a storm
I will post a checklist of items for axle change maybe today.
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