Transmission relation to P0136 code?

[tombs14]

Hey guys,

I've been doing some reading on slipping transmissions. I had my 1995 (V6) Camry diagnosed, and received a P0136 code - which is the heated O2 Sensor Bank 1, sensor 2 (below the passengers seat).

My question is, can a faulty O2 sensor cause my transmission to slip and give trouble shifting?

Many vibrations while shifting from 1st to 2nd.
And once I put my car into Drive, the RPM is up to 3000 before my car even moves!

Anybody have any experience with any of these conditions. Your input would be greatly appreciated.

-Tom in IL.

[hill8570]

A faulty O2 sensor (especially the downstream one you refer to) won't cause a slipping tranny.

I'm not much at diagnosing trannys -- yours sounds in pretty bad shape, but hopefully someone else with a bit more expertise will weigh in on that.

[haux]

Originally Posted by tombs14

Hey guys,

I've been doing some reading on slipping transmissions. I had my 1995 (V6) Camry diagnosed, and received a P0136 code - which is the heated O2 Sensor Bank 1, sensor 2 (below the passengers seat).

My question is, can a faulty O2 sensor cause my transmission to slip and give trouble shifting?

Many vibrations while shifting from 1st to 2nd.
And once I put my car into Drive, the RPM is up to 3000 before my car even moves!

Anybody have any experience with any of these conditions. Your input would be greatly appreciated.

-Tom in IL.

How long has it been since you've changed your transmission fluid?

[tombs14]

My father changed the transmission fluid in Oct, 2007 according to our books/records. At the time car had 143K miles on it.

I don't know if he has flushed since then without asking him, but today the milleage is at 165+K.

(Should there have been a change since then?)

[haux]

Originally Posted by tombs14

My father changed the transmission fluid in Oct, 2007 according to our books/records. At the time car had 143K miles on it.

I don't know if he has flushed since then without asking him, but today the milleage is at 165+K.

(Should there have been a change since then?)

That mileage isn't too bad to go between a drain/fill. I'd recommend you drop the transmission pan, replace the strainer/filter, clean the pan and magnets, and pay attention to any large accumulation of metal particles in the pan sludge and on the magnets. Be sure to remember the position of the magnets in the pan, and re-place them that same way.

I am not saying this as a solution to your problem, but it may help. And paying attention to metal fragments may also give you an idea of the health of the transmission. Hopefully someone else can comment more about a specific cause.

How's your transmission oil level? I assume there hasn't been a leak somewhere and you're not driving on empty.

[Kenny_McCormic]

If you put the trans in manual low does it drive ok?

[tombs14]

Originally Posted by Kenny_McCormic

If you put the trans in manual low does it drive ok?

Earlier in the last year I would normally take off in 2nd or sometimes even L(ow) and wouldn't usually get vibrations/trembles.

Now in the last couple months, it doesn't matter. The transmission slips for all levels.


Also, I gave in and made plans to drop it off at a transmission shop Monday. Their mechanic says the O2 sensor won't affect transmission slippage.

Thanks to everyone for your information.

[Chris Crash]

Originally Posted by tombs14

Also, I gave in and made plans to drop it off at a transmission shop Monday. Their mechanic says the O2 sensor won't affect transmission slippage.

That's probably your best bet

[JohnGD]

Sounds like your transmission may be on the way out. Putting it in L or 2 engages an additional brake band. So it'll hold gears better. But looks like that's not helping any more.

What fluid did he use? How's the condition and level of the ATF at this time?

You might want to try High Mileage ATF and change the strainer (plus wipe the pan and magnets). See if this helps. If you have a line pressure gauge, check the line pressure as well. It may also be on the low side, just suspecting.

Originally Posted by tombs14

Earlier in the last year I would normally take off in 2nd or sometimes even L(ow) and wouldn't usually get vibrations/trembles.

Now in the last couple months, it doesn't matter. The transmission slips for all levels.

Also, I gave in and made plans to drop it off at a transmission shop Monday. Their mechanic says the O2 sensor won't affect transmission slippage.

Thanks to everyone for your information.

[tombs14]

Well, I got back the diagnostic report. The O2 sensor had nothing to do with transmission malfunction.

Nothing "electronically" wrong, rather mechanically wrong. The guy stated that the automatic clutch was sticking every time it would change gears, or along the lines of that. Only a complete rebuild would fix, rather than a "simpler" solenoid problem (which is cheaper).

As of now, i'm searching for bids at online used tranmissions dealers. Of about 10 to 15, my best offer has been $600 (including shipping) with a 12 month warranty.

Thanks for the suggestions and info from everybody.

[JohnGD]

Well, that low a price could mean you'll just get a junkyard pull and installed.

You might want to check your local Automatic Transmission Rebuilders Association members. I would.

http://www.atra.com/source/members/m...rch/search.cfm

Originally Posted by tombs14

Nothing "electronically" wrong, rather mechanically wrong. The guy stated that the automatic clutch was sticking every time it would change gears, or along the lines of that. Only a complete rebuild would fix, rather than a "simpler" solenoid problem (which is cheaper).

As of now, i'm searching for bids at online used tranmissions dealers. Of about 10 to 15, my best offer has been $600 (including shipping) with a 12 month warranty.

Thanks for the suggestions and info from everybody.

[hill8570]

Originally Posted by tombs14

Well, I got back the diagnostic report. The O2 sensor had nothing to do with transmission malfunction.

Nothing "electronically" wrong, rather mechanically wrong. The guy stated that the automatic clutch was sticking every time it would change gears, or along the lines of that. Only a complete rebuild would fix, rather than a "simpler" solenoid problem (which is cheaper).

As of now, i'm searching for bids at online used tranmissions dealers. Of about 10 to 15, my best offer has been $600 (including shipping) with a 12 month warranty.

Thanks for the suggestions and info from everybody.

Any quotes for a rebuild? I'd personally rather have a rebuilt, known tranny than install an unknown used. Especially considering how much it'd cost to ship a tranny back for a warranty claim.

[tombs14]

Originally Posted by hill8570

Any quotes for a rebuild? I'd personally rather have a rebuilt, known tranny than install an unknown used. Especially considering how much it'd cost to ship a tranny back for a warranty claim.

Transmission repairman's quote was ~ 3K in a ritzier area of Peoria. Other known quote could land 1.5k+ for a complete rebuild.

[JohnGD]

Marshall has one reman'ed for $1914 + $415 core (+$42 shipping to peoria). Rockauto prices. Carries a 3 year 100,000 miles warranty.
http://www.marshallengines.com/transmissions.htm

Or you can try Jasper Engines.
http://www.jasperengines.com/transmissions.php

This type of warranty (3/100K) is typical of a good "re-manufactured" transmission. Do check with them for installer requirements and available torque converter.

However, if you can pull it and do your own rebuild. A rebuild kit is about $200-250 or so, plus a reman torque converter $150 or so. See also:
Transmission Swap Write-Up and Photos

Originally Posted by tombs14

Transmission repairman's quote was ~ 3K in a ritzier area of Peoria. Other known quote could land 1.5k+ for a complete rebuild.