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Old 01-01-2010, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Clutch Start Switch

I know there's a way to get around wiring this up.

But my auto wiring harness doesn't have the connector for the clutch start switch (the button that gets pressed when you push the clutch down to start the car).

Isn't there a paperclip trick for this? There's no connector and I doubt the right wires are there to tap into...
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know a few of you guys on here have done this swap. How did you wire up the switch?
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hmm

Is the neutral safety switch connector 2 wires? I know some are 1 wire connectors that ground through the pedal itself. You should just be able to jump these wires together and it should crank if it is a 2 wire connector. The switch just closes the circuit.
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Yeah it's two wires. But see, I went from an auto to manual so the wires are not in place for the connector on the auto wiring harness.
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Yeah it's two wires. But see, I went from an auto to manual so the wires are not in place for the connector on the auto wiring harness.
Still should just be able to jump those wires together to get crank.
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Where are they, is my question?

I tried following the wires but got lost... haha
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I found this in my service manual:


Now, judging from this schematic and the circumstances I am in of having a manual transmission in an automatic body, one would assume that instead of having a clutch start switch I have the park/neutral switch. That's what I'm getting from this picture, anyway. So what seems logical to me is find that switch and delete it and just plug the two wires together.

The question I have though, is where is the park/neutral switch. Note this is not the switch on the front of the auto transmission.
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The question I have though, is where is the park/neutral switch. Note this is not the switch on the front of the auto transmission.
You would have had to disconnect the neutral safety switch from the auto shift cable when the auto trans was removed. It IS in the front of the trans, bottom on DS. The wire connector for the neutral safety should be hanging there still, but may be covered by hoses etc. Just jump the necessary wires in the connector. Do you also want to install a clutch pedal lockout switch for safety in the manual?
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The engine's wiring harness was switched to the manual one, so the neutral safety switch and wires aren't there anymore.

I don't really care if the clutch start switch functions, I just want the car to start.
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The engine's wiring harness was switched to the manual one
So is the clutch switch connector part of the new wiring harness?
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No. The clutch switch is under the dash, the connector being directly behind the drivers side fuse box.

That's where it was on the car that the manual transmission came out of.

The car that the manual transmission went into, which was originally automatic, does not have this connector in place. I guess the wiring harnesses under the dash are different in automatic cars than manual cars.
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The engine's wiring harness was switched to the manual one,
I guess it didn't include the connector then. Is the portion of the schematic you provided (2B(3)/2J(11) the starter relay? If so you'll have to find the ignition switch wire that would have normally run through the neutral safety switch (b-w) to 2J(11) and run a jumper instead to the starter relay. That's how my M/T schematic shows how it's wired. You will not have a safety lock out of the clutch though unless you install the clutch switch and run the ignition wire through it.
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So, basically just find the b-w ignition wire that would go to the switch and jump it to....the b-o wire?
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...jump it to....the b-o wire?
As long as the b-o wire goes to the starter relay. I would test the b-w wire first and make sure there are not two b-w wires. Don't forget you need power to the relay when the key is on start, not run. Just test the connections first before doing final wire connections. Also make sure the b-w also does not power another circuit on start before you cut it to splice in the jumper. Always test before cutting.
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give us more information first please

which engine? which tranny? do you have a manual ecu then? or trying to use the auto one? etc. etc.


I don't see how it's so hard to pin down the clutch switch if you have a wiring diagram, unless of course, you have the wiring diagram for the auto and you're using the harness for the manual
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