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Old 01-03-2010, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Weird idle

Ok so I got my valve cover gaskets replaced a couple weeks ago after finding oil on my plugs. I get in my car the next day and it has a really weird idle. It drops down and acts like its gonna stall. Took it back to the shop and it worked for a little bit after he tightened down the intake plenum better. It is doing it again and I even ran a fuel injector cleaner to see if that was the problem and it didn't help at all.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what else has been done to the car?

so the problem started before you took car into shop. and you took the car into a shop to get new spark plugs and valve gaskets

do you have a vid with better sound?

does it feel like misfire?

problem is all the time? or??

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Just raise your idle speed!
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Just raise your idle speed!
That sounds more like covering up the issue rather than fixing it, hehe.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Does it also happen when she's cold, or just after she's warmed up? This is a 3vz engine, yes?
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3vz, happens when its warmed up because the idle is under 1k warmed up, cold start its at about 2k. This idle thing happened AFTER I took it in. I took it in the first time because I had like a bogging/sputtering under heavy acceleration and that is when we found the oil on the spark plugs/boots.
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3vz, happens when its warmed up because the idle is under 1k warmed up, cold start its at about 2k. This idle thing happened AFTER I took it in. I took it in the first time because I had like a bogging/sputtering under heavy acceleration and that is when we found the oil on the spark plugs/boots.
I'd go hunting for a vacuum leak. Did the mechanic have to remove the intake manifold / throttle body / plenum to get to the rear bank? Maybe neglected to use a new gasket when reassembling. Or could've disturbed / cracked a vacuum hose while dinking around -- easy to do.
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I'd go hunting for a vacuum leak. Did the mechanic have to remove the intake manifold / throttle body / plenum to get to the rear bank? Maybe neglected to use a new gasket when reassembling. Or could've disturbed / cracked a vacuum hose while dinking around -- easy to do.
Yeah he had to remove everything over top the back valve cover. Ill mess with it wednesday once I have some free time and it isn't in the 20s/30s hopefully lol
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took a couple videos today, heard a small hissing noise so maybe it is a vacuum leak.
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Holy crap this post describes my problem perfectly! I have a 94 V6 le with 90,000 miles on it and recently the acceleration has decreased dramatically, the engine sounds like it's struggling to accelerate like it normally does and I also had this low idling problem where it felt like it was going to stall. I drive this car like hell and I'm freaking out about this giant decrease in acceleration! I have noooo idea where to begin..
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So it FINALLY threw some codes, my throttle position sensor is going bad so we upped the idle so I can save up for that over priced part. Also have the rear o2 sensor going bad lol
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So it FINALLY threw some codes, my throttle position sensor is going bad so we upped the idle so I can save up for that over priced part. Also have the rear o2 sensor going bad lol
Town & Country Toyota ( http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=215498 ) shows that part for $135, which isn't horrible...beats list. They're pretty close, shipping-wise, to you too. Might want to wait for a "free shipping" offer -- they tend to have cheap shipping around the holidays.

Frankly, I'd be tempted to try a junkyard pull first -- the TPS isn't all that failure prone, so I'd expect good luck there. I see one on fleabay for $9 plus $14 shipping (gah!) if you can't find one locally. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93...item27ad4c227f

What's the code on the rear O2 sensor? Depending on the code, might be the cat instead of the sensor.

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The machine used didn't give an actual code, it said right bank o2 sensor which I assumed to be the rear
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The machine used didn't give an actual code, it said right bank o2 sensor which I assumed to be the rear
Not sure how to interpret "right bank". Typically, the sensors on the exhaust manifolds are "Bank 1 Sensor 1" (firewall side manifold) and "Bank 2 Sensor 1" (radiator side manifold). Unless your 3vz is Cali-spec (it would say on the underside hood sticker), I don't think it has a post-cat sensor (which would normally be called "Bank xx Sensor 2", but I wouldn't swear to it.

I really, really, really hate those effing "user friendly" code readers. The Pxxxx codes may take a smidge of lookup, but they're completely unambiguous. OK, rant over...
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I know but its what my friend had at his shop and autozone and such only do 1996 and up cars. o2 sensors are cheap so I could probably just replace both anyways, and if my motor is a cali spec and in va I will be amazed, its a replacement motor.
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