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Old 02-20-2010, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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nose diving...how to keep it flat?

I was wondering what I could do about reducing nose diving when braking and also reducing body roll in turns. I replaced the struts already (struts only, not spring) and added a second rear sway bar.
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They're gonna nose dive no matter what.

Newer, stiffer springs could help up front.

Lowering, bigger wheels with low profile tires will help body roll. I hope you used a TRD or whiteline RSB.

You could try a TRD strut bar. Don't get anything but a TRD though, the ones you see on ebay are crap.

There's a lot of other braces you can buy, but I personally think that lowering and tires will be your biggest improvement.
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I didn't expect tire change would effect it that much. I was thinking about getting some springs from a junk yard that have a thicker wire diameter that are shorter than stock. would this work? And I pulled a stock rear sway bar from a camry at a junk yard (cost me $20) and attacted it to the stock one. I read an article about it on auto speed.
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Also what is the principle behind strut bars? I know they help reduce the geometry change in the front suspension when taking turns at speed. But does it do this by pushing the upper strut away from each other or by pulling them in together. When I say push and pull I mean put force in that direction. Or am I making this more complicated than it really is? lol
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The strut bar just holds them so they don't move in or out.
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disk brakes in the back might help a bit? dual sway bars? how? pictures? more so what did you do with the bushings and end links? and for some reason the i4 bar is thicker than the v6 but the same size as the es and se
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stiffer springs and thicker sway bar.

my 93 camry XLE V6 had hella body roll.. never took it on fast turns like my truck does haha
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A good set of aftermarket springs, Tokico struts, TRD rear sway bar, TRD front strut tower bar, 17" or 18" wheels that are wide with softer/lower profile tires should be sufficient. That's what I have and my car is flat around corners. The rear is so stiff that oversteer can be an issue in certain situations. You can add more components too (ie. lower braces, LCA's, etc). If you want absolutely no roll, get some good coilovers with high spring rates. The car should be on rails after that.
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Ok I will take some pics. What is TCL's? And could I get springs from a junk yard if I measure everything out?
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I read the double sway bar article on a site called autospeed. They have a lot of useful information on upgrades and what not. Check it out!!
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please dont go throwing random springs onto your car.
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I wouldn't be randomly picking springs to put on. I would be measuring my current springs and then measuring to find ones that have a higher spring rate (stiffer) and are shorter. If anyone has done this or tried to do this let me know.
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please dont go throwing random springs onto your car.
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coilovers are the only thing that significantly reduces nose dip. for body roll the RSB and tight springs/coilovers will help alot. if you find it in a junkyard...its probably junk.
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A good set of aftermarket springs, Tokico struts, TRD rear sway bar, TRD front strut tower bar, 17" or 18" wheels that are wide with softer/lower profile tires should be sufficient. That's what I have and my car is flat around corners. The rear is so stiff that oversteer can be an issue in certain situations. You can add more components too (ie. lower braces, LCA's, etc). If you want absolutely no roll, get some good coilovers with high spring rates. The car should be on rails after that.

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